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  1. #61
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    Misutoraru's Avatar
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    Misutoraru Valkyrie
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    Quote Originally Posted by FrejyaAthenes View Post
    Really, just make it skippable if one of these conditions is met and I'm fine:

    1. No new players detected.
    2. Undersized party.

    Seem fair to you guys?
    The reward have to reduce accordingly to prevent new players being excluded from those two MSQ.
    If not every party will just kick the new player or plainly go PF and leaving new player in queue for ages to force either of those condition
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  2. #62
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    FrejyaAthenes's Avatar
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    Freyja Alfodr
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    Cactuar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Misutoraru View Post
    The reward have to reduce accordingly to prevent new players being excluded from those two MSQ.
    If not every party will just kick the new player or plainly go PF and leaving new player in queue for ages to force either of those condition
    Not if the game makes the decision once the duty starts.
    If new players at the start, unskippable.
    If not, skippable.
    If new player is kicked and replaced with a not new player, still unskippable.

    There. Now there's no reason to kick since it won't change anything. At worst, a person might leave like they used to do for Steps of Faith.
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  3. #63
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    Nariel Cendrenuit
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    You're making 7 other people carry you and making the encounter that much longer. You deserve the kick, right at the end too so you waste your time.
    In all honesty, those boss melt in 30-40 sec, I can't see 10 sec more sec make a real difference when the main incencitive for AFKer is the 45min of millions times seens cinematic.

    As much it is rude, I can't blame them... FFS its boring to the point of being an attempt of murder.

    I can't even wrap my head around on why I make myself enduring this nightmare for jobs I won't play anyway...
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    Last edited by Nariel; 07-17-2019 at 09:36 PM.

  4. #64
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    Flare Farron
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    Shiva
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    Dark Knight Lv 80
    Well i have two main problems with the MSQ.... As someone said before i also had times where i really dozed of during the cutscenes and woke up as half of the fight was over... the second problem results somewhat from the first. The bosses melt away so fast that sometimes (when i get out of the cutscene later then the rest of the group, wich i still dont know why it happens now and then) the boss is already so low that i get 2-3 skills in and he dies... So why even bother activ playing when there isnt really any noticable difference if i am properly doing stuff or just afking.
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  5. #65
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    Krotoan Argaviel
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    Sargatanas
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nariel View Post
    In all honesty, those boss melt in 30-40 sec, I can't see 10 sec more sec make a real difference when the main incencitive for AFKer is the 45min of millions times seens cinematic.

    As much it is rude, I can't blame them... FFS its boring to the point of being an attempt of murder.

    I can't even wrap my head around on why I make myself enduring this nightmare for jobs I won't play anyway...
    As has been mentioned and batted back and forth, If you gonna queue, do the work. If you're going to kick back and expect everyone else to do the work, expect to be kicked. I'd love to go watch a movie for the last 30 minutes of Nero-Ican'tshuttheheckup and the elevator ride that never ends, but SOMEONE has to actually do the encounters and it's presumptuous, arrogant and inconsiderate to expect it to be everyone ELSE.
    (4)
    WHERE IS THIS KETTLE EVERYONE KEEPS INTRODUCING ME TO?

  6. #66
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    Misutoraru Valkyrie
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    I just kick anyone still at starting point after we fight Nero
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  7. #67
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    Nariel Cendrenuit
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    As has been mentioned and batted back and forth, If you gonna queue, do the work. If you're going to kick back and expect everyone else to do the work, expect to be kicked. I'd love to go watch a movie for the last 30 minutes of Nero-Ican'tshuttheheckup and the elevator ride that never ends, but SOMEONE has to actually do the encounters and it's presumptuous, arrogant and inconsiderate to expect it to be everyone ELSE.
    Oh I agree, you tag you play, AFK is a legit reason to get kicked. BUt, I don't blame them and won't probably care at all to the point of kicking them to gain 10 sec on the next boss.
    , I'm even too bored to even noticed if people are actually AFKing to be even more honest.
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    Last edited by Nariel; 07-17-2019 at 09:54 PM.

  8. #68
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    Krotoan Argaviel
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nariel View Post
    Oh I agree, you tag you play, AFK is a legit reason to get kicked. BUt, I don't blame them and won't probably care at all to the point of kicking them to gain 10 sec on the next boss.
    , I'm even too bored to even noticed if people are actually AFKing to be even more honest.
    You are far too forgiving. I feel regardless of circumstance you are still the ultimate arbiter of your own actions and imposing on others just because you are lazy/apathetic is , to me, the epitome of rude.

    It's not losing 10 seconds that bothers me, its the mentality that foisting the entire responsibility of clearing on everyone else is OK.
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    WHERE IS THIS KETTLE EVERYONE KEEPS INTRODUCING ME TO?

  9. #69
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    Fenrir As'hall
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    Shiva
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    Gladiator Lv 60
    The players arent the problem. The problem are ridiculously boring and long cutscenes which can't be skipped.
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  10. #70
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    Niko Zimmershade
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    Hyperion
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    Samurai Lv 80
    Quote Originally Posted by BatLW View Post
    The players arent the problem. The problem are ridiculously boring and long cutscenes which can't be skipped.
    No, the problem is the players complaining about the new people watching cutscenes while everyone else runs off ahead. If you can live with out the huge EXP bonus, dont do MSQ and respect the new people trying to enjoy the story
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