MSQ roulette and AFK

[Kyomagi]

I've run those dungeon lots of time, and honnestly, for someone who is new to the game, making the cutscene unskippable is the best option. That said, with a lot of leveling to do, many player uses that roulette to level up, and, the game is able to tell when someone is new to a dungeon or not. Would it be simpler to simply put a switch where when a new player is detected, you can't skip the cutscene, when everyone did it at least once, you can then skip them?

I understand people who don't like that roulette, my roommate is one of them and I've seen him afk when heMs doing a run without me, and I told him what I was thinking of that behaviour : there is just 8 persons in the dungeon, without the afk that makes 7, it do make a difference on the speed you clear it. They deserve to be kicked out. When you press the "start" button to begin a dungeon, you need to be ready and active, even if it's braindead content, otherwise just don't queue to it and do something else. But don't be that ***** who just don't contribute.

Before the change, those roulettes would not give much in the way of EXP for leveling. Since the change, it gives massive amounts of exp. Thats the trade off. from 78-79 on sam i got close to 18mil exp running prea, which took 40 minutes total. its the best exp per minute dungeon.

[Kewitt]

They should just fix MSQ and make it NPC supported only. That way we don't have to worry about people missing MSQ story.

[Feidam]

They should just fix MSQ and make it NPC supported only. That way we don't have to worry about people missing MSQ story.

The trust system could eventually be used for that if they ever let be used in past content. They’d need a new set of content to introduce 8man stuff though. Msq is where new players first experience that.

[TaranTatsuuchi]

On the subject of frequency of the problem...


I recall seeing regular threads on Reddit complaining about how the 2.0 climax was ruined for someone, it was often enough that people on Reddit we're routinely pissed about seeing yet another Thread about the subject.

[Rivxkobe]

Wasn't the change made because speedrunning the dungeons would dogpile the new player with scenes, and this caused only the most recent one to play after the one they are currently on making them miss out on all of the other ones that came between them?

Like, I don't think the change was made directly because of negative players harassing new players, since they couldn't force the player to stop watching their cutscene, I'm pretty sure it was more because if they wanted to watch the cutscenes while everyone else blew through the place they literally couldn't because of the way cutscenes work.

Or something like that.

[Kyomagi]

Wasn't the change made because speedrunning the dungeons would dogpile the new player with scenes, and this caused only the most recent one to play after the one they are currently on making them miss out on all of the other ones that came between them?

Like, I don't think the change was made directly because of negative players harassing new players, since they couldn't force the player to stop watching their cutscene, I'm pretty sure it was more because if they wanted to watch the cutscenes while everyone else blew through the place they literally couldn't because of the way cutscenes work.

Or something like that.

It was a domino effect, the speed running, people telling newbies to skip cut scenes and then the issue you mentioned above. I have seen a few people even kick newbies out because they watched cutscenes.

[Rivxkobe]

I have seen a few people even kick newbies out because they watched cutscenes.

I have not. I've seen the opposite though.

As in, I've kicked/agreed to kick players harassing players for watching cutscenes. lol

[Losara]

I'm expecting it to become a solo dungeon in the future now that trusts are a thing. If the spaghetti code allows it, that is.

It would be an ideal candidate for becoming a trust dungeon. There are only the 2 dungeons and it would then allow for new players to take their time without worrying about other players at all. Tidying up the old content should be a priority in the down time when dev's aren't working on new content I would think, at least that's how most companies handle their backlog of work.

[Zfz]

Praetorium, on the other hand, might as well be a movie. You literally spend 35 minutes listening to Gaius, Nero and Lahabrea's monologues and barely 10 (if even) actually fighting.

In our LS we call doing the MSQ Roulette "going to the cinema."