Male Viera as a playable character! show your support

[SturmChurro]

I know I'm late for this, but when I saw your post before, I did not post nothing because this thread is full with screenshots of my character (And, correct me if I'm wrong, but I think I was the first person who tried the "super mario" mustache on a viera). You can see my posts here:

first attempt: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...34#post5026334
current appearance: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...76#post5056276
current appearance 2: http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...17#post5070417
EDIT: I forgot this one http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...03#post5062503

I'm working on a drawing too, but it's not finished yet (I was on Praetorium, I was really bored. Maybe i will finish this at next Praetorium run)

Wow! Did they add male viera in the most recent patch?!

[Adamantini]

Wow! Did they add male viera in the most recent patch?!

hahaha, you don't know how I'm happy after read this. Thanks =)

[Lauront]

Speaking of anime, I think Erwin Smith from Attack on Titan would be great as a base model for what male viera could look like:

Nice! And since you mentioned Titan...

[zeylos]

While I would prefer slightly smaller biceps on the male viera model, I do think that, realistically, they will be around the same size as elezen's biceps. So I found a picture that I think best resembles that. I really like this body type as well since it's slim but also fit.

art by twitter user: @omio_5959
While I didn't see anything inappropriate on their dash after a quick glance, perhaps I still shouldn't link. However, I do encourage people to give this artist the time of day and check out more of their art on twitter.

I really like this Imo, I'd prefer a more well toned body type (mostly cuz I like stronger/more muscled men and that means eye candy for me xD) but I would certainly switch if they looked like this and had at least 1 face that was handsome, kinda like my signature's artwork

[zeylos]

That's fine. I think Yoshi-P will design the men to have classically handsome facial options since the women have conventionally attractive facial options to available to them. I think the men may have some tufts of fur as a customisation option, though - and perhaps some neat exclusive facial hair designs as well. I know it's been a common suggestion for more scars, tattoos and facial hair to be added to the character creation so it'd help address that request.

At any rate, at least we know that they will likely resemble adults due to Yoshi-P's statement. After all, he did say that Viera won't adhere to a child-like aesthetic and that they wouldn't be based off of Alphinaud either. Which is what a lot of the suggestions put forward resemble!

I'm not so sure about the fur thing personally? I mean, I'd like body hair ofc, but I heard there's like a max amount of options they will have? Maybe in their racial armor or something? idk

[SturmChurro]

I'm not so sure about the fur thing personally? I mean, I'd like body hair ofc, but I heard there's like a max amount of options they will have? Maybe in their racial armor or something? idk

From what I gather, and I may be wrong, each option takes up another means of customization. So like, if there was a tuft of fur, and it was a customizable option, it would take up the place of something else, something like ear/ear size would take up that slot, hyur have muscle slider. If the tuft of fur was permanent to the body, or maybe added to features (?) it could work, I think. I'm not exactly sure how their character creation works, and I am probably wrong, but that's what I've gathered.

Personally I wouldn't want the tuft of fur, I think it it would look dumb, but that's just me. Rather, I wouldn't want it permanent to the character, if it was an option I wouldn't mind, but we might not get a choice. Still I probably wouldn't play a male viera, so I don't really have a horse in this race.

[Alleo]

While I would prefer slightly smaller biceps on the male viera model, I do think that, realistically, they will be around the same size as elezen's biceps. So I found a picture that I think best resembles that. I really like this body type as well since it's slim but also fit.

art by twitter user: @omio_5959
While I didn't see anything inappropriate on their dash after a quick glance, perhaps I still shouldn't link. However, I do encourage people to give this artist the time of day and check out more of their art on twitter.

Oh my hello Mister Handsome. D:

(Also about another post: If the females have some kind of rabbit features, especially their noses, why would the males be different from that? Otherwise they would truly just be human with rabbit ears.)

About the last boss of eden: How would that body type fit in any way with the race? That would be even more muscles than Roe and Hrothgar combined. That would make even Rambo or Conan look like slim people.

[alacruxe]

About the last boss of eden: How would that body type fit in any way with the race? That would be even more muscles than Roe and Hrothgar combined. That would make even Rambo or Conan look like slim people.

I'm inclined to believe they were trolling with those remarks, but this is the male viera thread we're talking about, so it's awfully hard to say.

[Gwenorai]

From what I gather, and I may be wrong, each option takes up another means of customization. So like, if there was a tuft of fur, and it was a customizable option, it would take up the place of something else, something like ear/ear size would take up that slot, hyur have muscle slider. If the tuft of fur was permanent to the body, or maybe added to features (?) it could work, I think. I'm not exactly sure how their character creation works, and I am probably wrong, but that's what I've gathered.

Personally I wouldn't want the tuft of fur, I think it it would look dumb, but that's just me. Rather, I wouldn't want it permanent to the character, if it was an option I wouldn't mind, but we might not get a choice. Still I probably wouldn't play a male viera, so I don't really have a horse in this race.

I wouldn't mind the hair turf since it would separate them out a little from the females. I don't know like this is an unseen part of the race - it gives them the opportunity to make the males be a lot more than just a duplicate of the females with just male aesthetic. I would love the hair turf, but I'd also want them to have jackalope horns as well. I think that'd be so cool. The only issue with the horns would be that they would be tied to the face though - I imagine. As well as clipping, but aura go through that problem every waking day.

As long as the hair turf didn't take up something else in customisation. I could deal with it.

Also, I was reading about Hares and this stuck out.

'Rabbits tend to be social animals that live in groups. Hares spend most of their time by themselves, only pairing up occasionally to mate.' So, it seems that the males and all that are just separate for the sake of following their animal inspiration. 'Hares'. Part of me wonders if they even care about being alone, or if the males actually enjoy it and thus it's a reward for them to live alone.

I also can't see any information where the male hare is smaller than the females. And of course, there are also the mating habits where a male will find the females and mate with several of them before going off. I guess that's why they're classes as polygamous and promiscuous during the mating season. It wouldn't be that much of a stretch since Miqote has the same deal. So, unless it's not as simple as it seems to be and they're not basing the males on their aggressive animal counterparts then there could be size difference. Otherwise, from what I can see so far - male hares are not that different in size to the females, from what I can see so far. I'll continue to flick through the internet and check, but eh, none of these websites mention a huge size difference - if at all. That being said, there's no reason for the dudes to be different in size than the females, we can't keep using the 'rabbit' argument - they're not rabbits.

Edit: Senn posted some examples of some species of Hare being smaller than the females in regards to the weight which is genuinely a >%5 difference. I stand by my argument that it's really not worth making them smaller regarding that - and if they were then the males shouldn't be smaller in height, but have less fat. Which is the case, the males have zero body fat. The females, however, do have curves and have fat retention.

[Senn]

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"Hares and jackrabbits are leporids belonging to the genus Lepus"
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hare

There is a trend of female hares (Jills) being larger than male hares (Jacks).

Lepus nigricollis - Regardless of location, female L. nigricollis tend to be larger than males.
https://animaldiversity.org/accounts/Lepus_nigricollis/

Lepus califomicus - In Kansas, sexual dimorphism exists in mass and length of adults; females are larger than males. As the breeding season begins, difference in mass between sexes increases until a maximum is reached in mid-summer. Toward the end of the breeding season in late summer, males begin to gain mass and females to lose mass. After the breeding season, mass is nearly the same for both sexes.
https://watermark.silverchair.com/53...1BebEH_JJ164RA

Lepus timidus / Mountain hare - Females tend to be larger than males.
http://wildpro.twycrosszoo.org/S/0ML...us_timidus.htm