SE: Please copyright takedown FFLogs.

[IzzyData]

This isn’t a privacy issue, regardless of how often players try to twist it as such.

I disagree.

[HyoMinPark]

I disagree.

Okay, then let me ask you this: how is this a privacy issue when all the data is available publicly?

You also agreed to not use third party tools to extract that data that belongs to SE. That argument is rather hypocritical.

While that may be true, you can’t spin this argument around without first applying it to your own. That’s rather hypocritical. Don’t ignore it when it’s suddenly inconvenient to your argument.

That said, the developers are well aware that people use third-party tools. They watched the world progression teams for both Ultimates (in all three regions), and all of them had a parser present. They operate under a “don’t ask, don’t tell” policy, as well as a “don’t harass people in game about this” policy as well. But they know the tools are used—especially when it comes to high end content. If you don’t participate in said high-end content (Savage, Ultimate), then why does this matter to you?

I just take my numbers being uploaded as the 'nature of the beast', and there is no real way to stop it. I know people pad their numbers, especially with a dancer around, so at first glance they aren't even that reliable. Specifically they will upload their best runs and omit their worst. I probably have good and bad runs on that site again nothing I can do about it unless, I would hypothetically do the same.

I actually get worried for other people when they start talking about their logs in a party, all someone has to do is report and the evidence is there in the chat for a ban

From what I’ve gathered, FFLogs is going to move to filter out padding and start using rDPS calculations. Which is honestly something they should have done since Creator.

[Melichoir]

I disagree.

You can say you disagree, but HyoMinPark is correct. it's not a privacy issue. It's not your data and the data is available to everyone in party. So it matters little if you agree or not. If you dont want your data on fflogs, then you can opt out.

Keep in mind though that if your concern is people judging you based on your logs, know that if people are gonna judge you by your logs and cant find you, there pretty much gonna assume you have bad parses and are hiding it out of embarrassment. You arent stopping anyone from passing judgement on you.

[IzzyData]

t's not a privacy issue.

You can hold that opinion of course. However, I disagree.

[YukinoAmidala]

You can hold that opinion of course. However, I disagree.

How is data that is publicly visible in game by anyone you party with private?

[Melichoir]

Terms of servicers are actually legally binding contracts between the partiets who sign it. They are however deemed uninforceable if it States that the service providor can change it when ever and however they want.

It's in my best interest (and yours) that what you sign is clean.

I dont care who or how logs or parsers. I raid when I want and how I want and havent had any problems yet. Get that narrative outta here.

I don't care that somebody is looking at my numbers. I care that while it's against the ToS, I'm now in a position where it's up to ME to let the third party program know that I don't wanna break the ToS because just by agreeing to the ToS, making my character and coming across someone who uses this stuff, I'm automaticly breaking the ToS. essentially.

Make it legal, hell endorse it! Don't put me in a situations where I have to work to not be involved with it when I've bought the game, signed the thing and bought the subscription for it, if it's not a game feauture.

That's all I would like, personally.

Read the ToS. They reserve the right to make changes among other things as they see fit, among determining how the terms of service is used. This means they can enforce (or choose not too) as they see fit and there's nothing you can do about it.

If you have an issue with the legalese, go ahead and file a lawsuit. Beyond that, theyre not going to care.

If you have no problem with it existing, and still raid regardless of it, then what is your problem? It's not in the ToS or that SE doesnt enforce ToS unilaterally? Please. This is sounding like you are making a fuss out of something you seem to be fine with but arent for really odd reasons.

You can hold that opinion of course. However, I disagree.

Again, its not an opinion. It's fact. You can hold the opinion that it should be a privacy issue, but that doesnt change the fact it isnt currently because the information provided isnt yours - it's SEs. They can do anything they want with that information, and as long as youre in the theme park, people can see what youre doing and SE is fine with this usually

[Granyala]

You can hold that opinion of course. However, I disagree.

No RL data is involved. It is not a privacy issue.
In addition, as others already stated: the data in question is of public nature to begin with.

By definition it cannot be a privacy issue.

End of story.

[IzzyData]

No RL data is involved. It is not a privacy issue.
In addition, as others already stated: the data in question is of public nature to begin with.

By definition it cannot be a privacy issue.

End of story.

Again, you are free to hold this opinion, but I disagree. This is not even close to the general consensus when it comes to online privacy policies.

You are implying so many things such as companies like google, facebook or phone companies collecting data on you and selling it is not a privacy concern just because your name isn't directly attached.

It might not be a big privacy concern, but that doesn't mean it has nothing to do with privacy.

[Granyala]

Again, you are free to hold this opinion, but I disagree. This is not even close to the general consensus when it comes to online privacy policies.

You know the thing about opinions?
They do not matter in such a case.

Facts do.

And the facts state that identifying you as a person via an online gaming log containing only server name and avatar name is impossible unless YOU create that possibility.
As such the laws of data privacy do NOT apply here because they were made to protect sensitive personal data pertaining to your real life person.

[YukinoAmidala]

Again, you are free to hold this opinion, but I disagree. This is not even close to the general consensus when it comes to online privacy policies.

Online Privacy Policies apply to your individual privacy IRL. As in your actual personal information. Which fflogs and parsers do not read or collect in any way.