[SPOILERS] Warrior of Light's True Name

[Rannie]

Unfortunately we dont have Krile with us to even see that however we do have Y'shtola with us who can see aether and did not once make a comment about Ardbert being with us, so imo I highly doubt even Krile would have been able too. Hell, Ryne flat out says she can see the WoL's soul and has Minfillia's power yet if you chose the option of saying you had help from Ardbert, she was all like oooookay.... o.O.

Also, Hythlodaeus may even be gender neutral enough to fit for both a female and Male WoL. ^_^


I really wish I could see a translation of that convo we had with Hythlodaeus from all the other languages...

[dragoelete]

there seems to be a lot of people with either gaps in there knowledge or just arent noticing it but. hythlodeus said that he was special because in his creation emet was thinking "perhaps hythlodeus might realize the truth." the question is how broad is the truth spoken here? is it just the truth that they are shades and not real living beings. or is it much more broad than that and he sees the "truth" in all things. honestly we have no way of knowing just how strong the creation magic is. but judgeing by what was said they had the power to rewrite the laws of reality. so i imagine its pretty strong or at least more than strong enough for an accident like this to make hythlodeus all knowing and i get the feeling he will continue to pop up in the rest of the 5.x patch cycle.

[Rannie]

The exact quote was "Hythlodaeus will realize the truth." Which still is ambiguous in of itself. But yes I can agree on that portion. We dont know, I have my own ideas on the matter obviously lol

Cause I mean we know that Emet Selch was wanting the WoL to be on his side and that is one possible reason as to why he had that thought when he was making said recreation of the city.

[Annana]

"Hythlodaeus will realize the truth."

Could just as easily have been a passing thought. As Emet created Amaurot, shaping the inhabitants he has a brief thought: "If he was around, he'd realize. He always was perceptive."

And just as primals take on the personality that the summoner believes them to have, Hythlodaeus realizes, just as Emet believed that he would.

[YanderePrincess]

Also, Hythlodaeus may even be gender neutral enough to fit for both a female and Male WoL. ^_^

Gender neutrality isn't relevant for this. Our gender and the original Ascian's gender don't have to match, as proven by my WoL being female and Ardbert being male. Also, Hythlodaeus specifically refers to the Ascian we are fragments of as she (which surprised me because a lot of the ascians in Amaurot refer to each other with the gender neutral "they" when they do such referencing at all, so I doubt it's just a case of assuming which pronoun to use for the English translation like with what's-her-name from 1.0). Emet-Selch also referred to "her" when seeing that ascian's outline when Ardbert rejoins with us, and I'd have to go watch the CS again, but I believe his Japanese dialogue implied "her" as well?

[Wolffriend]

Gender neutrality isn't relevant for this. Our gender and the original Ascian's gender don't have to match, as proven by my WoL being female and Ardbert being male. Also, Hythlodaeus specifically refers to the Ascian we are fragments of as she (which surprised me because a lot of the ascians in Amaurot refer to each other with the gender neutral "they" when they do such referencing at all, so I doubt it's just a case of assuming which pronoun to use for the English translation like with what's-her-name from 1.0). Emet-Selch also referred to "her" when seeing that ascian's outline when Ardbert rejoins with us, and I'd have to go watch the CS again, but I believe his Japanese dialogue implied "her" as well?

The "she" only applies if your character is female. Male characters get "he" in those dialogs.

[dragoelete]

that still makes it somewhat awkward on female chars cause ardbert is a guy...

[YanderePrincess]

The "she" only applies if your character is female. Male characters get "he" in those dialogs.

Are you sure about that? Because that really wouldn't make any sense in the context, and I would hope the translation team learned their lesson with the woman from 1.0 about assuming gender of the characters if it's not specified in the Japanese (which it frequently isn't).

[Wolffriend]

Are you sure about that? Because that really wouldn't make any sense in the context, and I would hope the translation team learned their lesson with the woman from 1.0 about assuming gender of the characters if it's not specified in the Japanese (which it frequently isn't).

Yes, male characters in my FC have confirmed that Hyth says "he" to them. Others here have also said the same thing.

This is of course in the English version; might be different it other languages, but haven't seen many translations of that conversation yet.

[YanderePrincess]

Yes, male characters in my FC have confirmed that Hyth says "he" to them. Others here have also said the same thing.

This is of course in the English version; might be different it other languages, but haven't seen many translations of that conversation yet.

Yeah. I use Japanese dialogue, but seeing as the ancients aren't actually speaking Japanese there, it doesn't really help with knowing what was actually said. I'll see if I can go back and watch the scene with Emet-Selch and confirm if he specifies in his spoken dialogue. There's a good chance he doesn't, though, just because of how much Japanese omits pronouns.