Male Viera as a playable character! show your support

[SturmChurro]

Why do you care so much about male Viera height?

I also am in the camp of wanting tall male Viera because I really don't want to play short males personally. But people talking about it isn't going to hurt or change anything? Just let people discuss it because it doesn't matter what anyone says either which way, if the devs are going to add them they'll add them as they see fit.

Also, all your arguments fall apart because female Au Ra look completely out of place against their male counter parts and in regards to the Xaela half of their lore. But I suppose only females can break the mold. As long as it's cute and you like it, right?

I do not actually care. I come to this thread and post in it for eye rolling entertainment during downtime. I could care less if male viera are added in the long run, and I have said as much multiple times before. I just think people need to actually be logical with their arguments and not for wanting a short race for diversity, or rather to meet some obnoxious minority quota. 5'1 is a ridiculous height for a male to be at, but to top it all off let's give them a baby face too. I think some people actually just want male viera to be child like height with a child like face, but don't want to just say it. Viera as a whole shouldn't be ruined over this kind of stuff like so much is nowadays, leave it be. There is nothing wrong with a 6 foot tall man. If someone wants to play a short character play a male miqo'te or a lalafell or a max short hyur midlander with a baby face. I guess the midlander is a little too tall to be a 12 year old though.

[zeylos]

It seems that lots of ppl just LOVE drama and attacking others (specially me, Im used to it its cool ) so imma propose to instead go to the topic of actual male viera. So, as we've seen in the females already, there will be different ear types. Would you like them to be different? Personally I'd remove the floppy ears and switch them by floppy ears forward or to the sides, or maybe a different kind of ears

[Halivel]

/completely broke the head with endless amount of facepalms/ this community... I'm done. /sigh/

[Roda]

Hrothgar males were added in order to capitalise on a look that does not exist in the game, in the hopes that this will capture subscribers displeased with certain other MMOs. It was not done purely for the sake of adding "diversity".

WHAT DO YOU THINK THAT WORD MEANS?????!

[dustdjinn]

I do not actually care. I come to this thread and post in it for eye rolling entertainment during downtime. I could care less if male viera are added in the long run, and I have said as much multiple times before. I just think people need to actually be logical with their arguments and not for wanting a short race for diversity, or rather to meet some obnoxious minority quota. 5'1 is a ridiculous height for a male to be at, but to top it all off let's give them a baby face too. I think some people actually just want male viera to be child like height with a child like face, but don't want to just say it. Viera as a whole shouldn't be ruined over this kind of stuff like so much is nowadays, leave it be. There is nothing wrong with a 6 foot tall man. If someone wants to play a short character play a male miqo'te or a lalafell or a max short hyur midlander with a baby face. I guess the midlander is a little too tall to be a 12 year old though.

Reading this literally made me cringe. You state you just came here to troll people that would like something different than you. There is nothing wrong with tall characters that is true but nothing is wrong with short characters. If you want a tall character go play a Elezen, Roe or Au Ra...sounds pretty dismissive doesn't it.

The matter of the fact is in the "lore" never talks about the height of the males and only Yoshi stated he would LIKE to see a mix of a Elezen and Miqo'te. The reason this is so talked about is exactly because we have no real information. Welcome to Speculation Land Sturm!

P.S. Stop equating people that want a short character to wanting to play a child. It's a dismissive bully tactic to shut down others because you can't seem to understand that the shorter races are also the most played races. If the female viera were shorter there would be SOOO many more of them everywhere.

[LittleChickenNugget]

This thread was much better when certain people were more entertained with playing the game. Sigh. Welcome back to some familiar old faces I guess.

[Lauront]

This thread was much better when certain people were more entertained with playing the game. Sigh. Welcome back to some familiar old faces I guess.

Nothing good lasts forever.

[Mugear_bahamut]

By lalafell I meant a tiny race, though. Wanting a full race makes sense to me, but where I have my doubts are that many of the vocal players that claim this is about equality, representation, character variety etc. . . I have my doubts that those are the sole reasons, or even the primary reason. I just sort of wish people would be honest about why they want something. Like I am with you it annoys the hell out of me that I know two playable races are not complete even though I will not play them. I wish they went and released one full race since for me I do not like when companies release half finished products since I get a race is not like that but the idea that they might remain unfinished bothers me greatly not because lack of options but because the general idea of having those two empty spaces will just personally bothers me.

Also it irks me when people are fighting over options and wanting more of a certain character type or frame under the umbrella of more customization options, when those who like tiny freaky little potato races only have one option.

I have no issue with people making requests for things they want, I just wish people would frame it as such, and some in this thread have stated as much, I think those that are trying to bring in the LGBT aspect or the small group that said it was sexist choice was honestly confusing for me. Or how are arguing over a difference in aesthetic values, or taking things as a personal attack because their aesthetic values do not match.

I agree about the double race thing. I wish they just released full races one after the other. It's frustrating to know people who can/like to play other genders got what they want and the other didn't or wouldn't even in the next 2~4 years.

[Mugear_bahamut]

On the other hand, asking for male Viera to be a couple of inches shorter than female Viera... or a whole lot... as opposed to exploiting a broader height scale, is an addition purely for "diversity's" sake, one which is fulfilling no specific niche existing races don't already occupy and one which is too minute to yield higher profitability. It is purely done because some people want the gender dimorphism to be reversed, primarily for ideological reasons, because the fantasy-driven reasons behind it resolve to "male rabbits are smaller", which merits a huge "So what?"

Weren't you the one who initially suggested to me for a larger height slider? lol Don't go contradicting yourself now...

I'm fine with them reaching midlander height but I also personally want them to go a bit lower than Miqote. Sliders are a thing, after all.

Since they're a thing, they can just set the minimum below the females' and you can make yours short. Problem solved.

This literally doesn't make any sense. How is it "problem solved"? I said I want it below Miqote males.

Right, then make it below that. Problem solved.

Fair enough.

[Mugear_bahamut]

Reading this literally made me cringe. You state you just came here to troll people that would like something different than you. There is nothing wrong with tall characters that is true but nothing is wrong with short characters. If you want a tall character go play a Elezen, Roe or Au Ra...sounds pretty dismissive doesn't it.

The matter of the fact is in the "lore" never talks about the height of the males and only Yoshi stated he would LIKE to see a mix of a Elezen and Miqo'te. The reason this is so talked about is exactly because we have no real information. Welcome to Speculation Land Sturm!

P.S. Stop equating people that want a short character to wanting to play a child. It's a dismissive bully tactic to shut down others because you can't seem to understand that the shorter races are also the most played races. If the female viera were shorter there would be SOOO many more of them everywhere.

Thank you for this! Now I don't need to explain further as I did countless of times now. smh