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    also, I just realized that the female viera emote, in my personal opinion and view of the race (not saying it should be like this, just my view) are like, a rich person. I higly higly higly doubt a huntress would act so snobish. Makes me think for males it would be the same, super snobby-ish, graceful and elegant
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    Lalafell exist as the token 'small race'.

    Miqo'te are also fairly short - and although this is a Japanese game it is no secret that Square Enix put a lot of focus on appealing to Western demographics. In this game's case, the bulk of subscriptions happen to come from Europe and America.

    There also comes a point where it ends up being dubious for the sliders to go beyond what is already available. A song and dance that has played out many times throughout this thread, of course, but ultimately we end up coming back to the same question.

    Just where should the development team draw the line? You can only push boundaries so much before it becomes inappropriate in the eyes of many. You can already make a very short, feminine/androgynous looking male character. Most of those pushing for such aesthetics already do as much.

    So where is the line drawn? Because if you push any further then it really does just end up making a character resemble a child even if that isn't the intention.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    Lalafell exist as the token 'small race'.

    Miqo'te are also fairly short - and although this is a Japanese game it is no secret that Square Enix put a lot of focus on appealing to Western demographics. In this game's case, the bulk of subscriptions happen to come from Europe and America.

    There also comes a point where it ends up being dubious for the sliders to go beyond what is already available. A song and dance that has played out many times throughout this thread, of course, but ultimately we end up coming back to the same question.

    Just where should the development team draw the line? You can only push boundaries so much before it becomes inappropriate in the eyes of many. You can already make a very short, feminine/androgynous looking male character. Most of those pushing for such aesthetics already do as much.

    So where is the line drawn? Because if you push any further then it really does just end up making a character resemble a child even if that isn't the intention.
    I think that its extremely easy to make a super femenine male character that dosent look like a child at all if they wanted. I think its clear male viera will have 1 androgynous face, 1 handsome face and 1 ripped one, with the 4th one liekly being the creepy/'ugly'/funny face, so I dont even see whats the problem with it. as for height, theyll likely be shorter than the females, considering rabbit males are shorter, but dont expect much difference
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    Lalafell exist as the token 'small race'.

    Miqo'te are also fairly short - and although this is a Japanese game it is no secret that Square Enix put a lot of focus on appealing to Western demographics. In this game's case, the bulk of subscriptions happen to come from Europe and America.
    Again with this...Obviously excepting Lalafell.
    Female Au Ra are not Lalafell nor are they Miqote. They are the in-between.
    And try not to sound entitled like YoshiP is not trying to appeal to JP players more than EU and America.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zeylos View Post
    I think that its extremely easy to make a super femenine male character that dosent look like a child at all if they wanted. I think its clear male viera will have 1 androgynous face, 1 handsome face and 1 ripped one, with the 4th one liekly being the creepy/'ugly'/funny face, so I dont even see whats the problem with it. as for height, theyll likely be shorter than the females, considering rabbit males are shorter, but dont expect much difference
    There are only a few specific breeds of rabbit that have males that are smaller than their female counterparts and I don't see why that is relevant since the race only takes very light inspiration from rabbits to begin with - literally just in terms of their ears and noses. They've already been described by Yoshi-P as being 'tall', regardless. Matsuno's commissioned artwork also had them presented that way.

    Hopefully they'll be of equal height to the women or a little taller.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    There are only a few specific breeds of rabbit that have males that are smaller than their female counterparts and I don't see why that is relevant since the race only takes very light inspiration from rabbits to begin with - literally just in terms of their ears and noses. They've already been described by Yoshi-P as being 'tall', regardless. Matsuno's commissioned artwork also had them presented that way.

    Hopefully they'll be of equal height to the women or a little taller.
    Theyll obviously be equal height, but dont be surprised if theyre a bit shorter. Expect little sexual dysphormism overall going by matsuno's like on that picture
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    Quote Originally Posted by zeylos View Post
    Theyll obviously be equal height, but dont be surprised if theyre a bit shorter. Expect little sexual dysphormism overall going by matsuno's like on that picture
    There's nothing to suggest that they'll be shorter, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    There's nothing to suggest that they'll be shorter, though.
    Im just going by guess ofc, and there's nothing that suggests theyll be taller either. Just dont be surprised if theyre 5-6 CM shorter or the exact same height
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    Quote Originally Posted by zeylos View Post
    Im just going by guess ofc, and there's nothing that suggests theyll be taller either. Just dont be surprised if theyre 5-6 CM shorter or the exact same height
    I'm not seeing the logic. I could easily say don't be surprised if they're 5-6 CM taller.
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    They will probs be similar heights like elezen and roe
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