Revelations from SHADOWBRINGERS

[Alleo]

About hydaelyn:

In the end, Hydaelyn acts for hydaelyn’s interests, not the world. In setting about her own goals, her actions bear the result of damaging the star grieviously as well. At least that is what I got from the results of this story. In order for the people of this world to be truly free of the ruinius meddling of false deities, Hydaelyn needs to removed from its position. Even if it sounds like she is a being that has “learned the lesson”, she comes away from it still being an bad actor on the affairs of people. Roping people in with only enough so that they may get things done for her.

About Hydaelyn

How do you know she only acts in her own interest? First if the is truly at the basic a primal then they are formed in the view of the summoners. After Zodiark I would be quite sure that they would not summon another being that is against their life. Heck maybe their plan even was to shatter the world so that something like that can never happen again.

We know her view from Answers where she is kind but not understanding why we still fight. But her words in this are that we should move forward. Her actions to protect us has weakened her quite a lot, so much that she needed Minfilia to even be able to talk. As soon as she was able to she gave Minfilia free, together with a huge power to protect the first shard. Why would she do that if it was only about her? Yes one could argue that one more rejoined shard would bring Zodiark even closer to being awake, but she could have used the power jsut for herself too. Yet she did everything to help them and as we know she was not the one starting the flood either.

In the end quite a bit of the remaining Ancient ones decided to summon her. Gave her the power to split things like that. Maybe it was their view that it would be better to live like that, so that future generations can have their chance..something which would not happen under Zodiark and his constant sacrifices.

Life might not be great for the remaining Ascians, but is it bad for the people?

Also what people did she truly rope into this? People with the echo are free to do whatever they want. Its us who decides if we help her or not. Even Minfilia could have just walked on, on that day and would have never gotten to her. She has no deep reach into our world and before Minifila even had no emissary either. We are helping her out of our own believe.

To counter below.

Echo is not really a gift of Hydaelyn. So not sure why that would be the argument. There are quite a few primals that behave differently, Ramuh being one of the biggest ones. Alexander was another.


Not sure why old is an argument either Zodiark is older. The reason Zodiark even needed more power is because it was to keep to the demands of restoring the world. It's been said multiple times Primals need the aether to do so. Even Hydaelyn was born from the very same sacrifice.


Being an Avatar/emissary doesn't equate to knowing everything or was bestowed that knowledge. She was a mouthpiece.

We do not know exactly what the echo is right now or where it came from. Is it something that every ancient one had? But if that is the case, why does not everyone on the source has it either? The limited amount of people having this gift could well point out that this was received by the souls of those that summoned either Zodiark or Hydaeyln. But unlike the Ascians who tell us that they are tempered, we do not know the same about us. At least nothing right now truly indicates that we are.

My point with being old: In the short amount of time that Alexander was summoned (who is not an elder primal like the crystals) they already feared that he would turn the country into an wasteland. How would the planet still exist if Hydaelyn constantly needed huge amount of aether? The calamities are quite a bit apart and we do know that the shards are not "eaten" by her but that the force of the crack in the source after a calamity would cause it. She is also losing the battle with each rejoining and with each death WoL. She is so weak after shielding us from Ultima that she cant even speak to us directly anymore. How is all that possible without sucking the planet dry? Maybe we find out that she might get some part of aether from us when we die (maybe our memories?) but until then we simply dont know how she can sustain herself. I would dare and say that these ancient ones would not do the same mistake again, that others did with Zodiark.

Minfilia herself said that she was one with Hydealyn and learned the truth. And she had at least enough knowledge to know that Ardbert needs to be saved for us. That sounds to me like someone that at least know quite a bit more than we do.