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[Gwenorai]

Personally, I'd rather male viera look masculine in build, similar to male au ra, but femenine on animations.
What femenine means to me, is like the female viera, I asociate femeninity with foxes, not women, mostly cus humans are so diverse its very hard to put them into groups like that, just like how masculine to me means gorilla-esque, nothing to do with men. What I mean by femenien animations, I mean graceful animations, like a gracefull asassin dancer which is how I see male viera, not rainbow cats flying to take u whenever u decide to sit, and the reason for that is simply that I want male viera not only cus I love the viera race, rabbits, and I love attractive male characters (Before u start with the ERP argument, I personally find any sort of RP boring, and have absolutely no desire to dress my characters in sexy or skimpy clothes unless necessary), but most importantly, because they fill the wood elf fanatsy this game lacks (plz dont say elezen are anything like that, cuz they overly polite giraffes), and graceful /femenine animations come with that

Ah, see when I read this I think it's just a confusion of the word being used - you want graceful and beautiful men. I don't think these words are still associated with femininity.
The traits that are associated with femininity are these; gentleness, empathy, humility, and sensitivity. While the traits associated with masculine are strength, courage, independence, leadership, and assertiveness. The females have both of these; which is androgynous in regards to mental state. The men, however, by going off their lore seem to be more masculine.

[zeylos]

Ah, see when I read this I think it's just a confusion of the word being used - you want graceful and beautiful men. I don't think these words are still associated with femininity.
The traits that are associated with femininity are these; gentleness, empathy, humility, and sensitivity. While the traits associated with masculine are strength, courage, independence, leadership, and assertiveness. The females have both of these; which is androgynous in regards to mental state. The men, however, by going off their lore seem to be more masculine.

Hmmm personally I've seen the females to be more masculine than what lore says of men. Viera men lack leadership from what I've heard, yet the females dont lack any. I think no viera is femenine if we generalize, and as for viis, a bit more of both. Actually, the viera are a super amsculine race going by that, when I always though they were femenine. To me, femenine means gracefullnes etc, and masculine means brutal etc, but going by this description, most viera are masculine mentally speaking

[Lauront]

Hmmm personally I've seen the females to be more masculine than what lore says of men. Viera men lack leadership from what I've heard, yet the females dont lack any. I think no viera is femenine if we generalize, and as for viis, a bit more of both. Actually, the viera are a super amsculine race going by that, when I always though they were femenine. To me, femenine means gracefullnes etc, and masculine means brutal etc, but going by this description, most viera are masculine mentally speaking

I think you're dealing with abstracts now to the point that this is becoming foggy. The way Gwenorai laid out the personality traits is pretty helpful (although you can add more to these, such as traits like neuroticism, agreeableness and so on.) Both males and females exhibit these traits, but due to biological/evolutionary reasons, men express the traits to differing degrees to women (i.e. they fall along different bell curve distributions), who by and large were more preoccupied with child-bearing and -rearing historically, something which has tempered the evolution of their personality traits. Viera women are no exception to this, and their co-dependent social structure in order to protect their villages and rear their young is a facet of this. Because Viera choose to organise as hunter-gatherers, and because the males take it upon themselves to defend the Wood, the females have to be prepared to defend their villages as a last resort and also to assist with the hunting. This does not negate their more feminine characteristics, but it's probably why Gwenorai says they would appear androgynous in this facet. Certainly to modern eyes. Another thing to add is that it can also come down to differing expression of similar traits, and differing application of them (e.g. men are biologically inclined to show an interest in things/concepts, whereas for women this tendency is more in the area of people.)

Now compare to the males, who are solitary hunters. That is by far the most extreme type of masculine personality inclination you can get. The fact that they don't act as leaders in this regard is irrelevant, because they're not involved in the management of their villages at all.

Thus I don't consider the application of the term to the females to be particularly enlightening here.

You can associate certain physical traits with masculinity and femininity, however gracefulness is not one of those. They have more to do with anatomy and ratios indicative of fertility or virility. The same applies to facial beauty, but I think the term "beautiful" is a pretty gender-neutral term, anyway.