Scholar 5.0 Discussion

[LegoTechnic]

Even with them knocking her down 50 potency on her new spaz heal?

They literally do that every expansion. Seriously. They did it in Heavensward, they did it again in Stormsblood, and once more in Shadowbringers, and it's never buffed. Embrace scales very well with party ilvl increase, so they keep knocking it down at the start of every expansion to compensate.

Don't expect them to stop until embrace deals -50 potency so that the fairy can kill itself.

[YanderePrincess]

Don't expect them to stop until embrace deals -50 potency so that the fairy can kill itself.

Wasn't that basically the start of Stormblood when they took out Sustain and somehow also removed whatever damage reduction effect pets had at the same time?

[Semirhage]

As long as Embrace plays an important role in maintaining Scholar's "best near-mandatory healer" title, it's probably getting nerfed every expansion. Not that it's necessarily the right move, but I wouldn't be surprised by it.

[zeopower6]

Embrace should stay same potency but they should rework some of the math in there... but I guess that is a bit too much work perhaps.

[Connor]

I feel like Embrace is fine as it is personally, you can’t rely on it as your main source of healing now but with Seraph and Consolation / Seraphic Veil as well as all the buffs to our healing (Sacred Soil regen, Recitation, Illumination, Dissipation) I’ve never thought to myself ‘wow I wish Embrace was stronger’.

As an aside, would it be too OP if they made Chain Stratagem use Aetherflow on a shorter cooldown like 60s?

Alternatively I saw someone in another thread suggesting aetherflow abilities that give a small buff to the target for dumping unwanted stacks. Like a small damage increase or damage reduction.

Does pretty much the exact same as Energy Drain (converts unused Aetherflow into DPS) but without causing us to have more MP/DPS than the devs want us to have.

As for MP itself, I’ll sometimes hit like 20-25% but I still haven’t reached a situation where I literally had no MP, so I’m honestly a bit unsure about this complaint. Especially now that you can use Recitation to make the next Adloquium and Succor free.

I get that White Mage has like, infinite MP, but that’s kind of it’s thing lol. It wouldn’t be part of the classes identity as the powerful, safe healer with more MP economy if Scholar was the exact same, I think

[Naychan]

This just runs counter to every MMO I’ve played in the past 20 years. I get it but it just blows my mind. I’m having some serious WTF moments here.

[Rubiss]

Just give us back Energy Drain or something similar. We're never going to use all of our Aetherflow for healing without overhealing. Maybe get someone who actually plays Healer on the dev team. The fact that these changes even went live is baffling. Just like with the start of Stormblood, I have to wonder, who actually approves of these changes? They suck. Completely. YoshiP should drop BLM and go play a Healer with the same dedication for a month. Maybe we'd actually have an expansion launch where the healers (or some of them) aren't total trash in comparison to last expansion.

[LegoTechnic]

I get that White Mage has like, infinite MP, but that’s kind of it’s thing lol. It wouldn’t be part of the classes identity as the powerful, safe healer with more MP economy if Scholar was the exact same, I think

You know it's funny how you say that, as it used to be SCH's thing in ARR and early HW. Aetherflow used to be the bee's knees alongside optional energy drains, and was quite key in Manipulator nisi-cheese strategies. Of course a lot of that was the efficiency of its DPS kit in its off-healing role. WHM on the other hand had to watch their refresh timings and plan bard ballad usage.

[Yomiko_Nonaka]

WHM on the other hand had to watch their refresh timings and plan bard ballad usage.

so much this. and it was barely impossible to find a bard/mch who would agree to do that, since at this time it was for them a DPS loss. so much good memories...


Squix, please, give us back some real complexity. i miss the cleric stance dancing so much !

[Sebazy]

To be fair, WHM's MP economy was it's downfall even at the end of HW, you had to hold back so much even in A12S, meanwhile AST had the tools to self sustain at the cost of the occasional card and some cooldown alignment. SB fixed that massively with Thin Air.