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  1. #101
    Player
    JohnSeal's Avatar
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    Jul 2018
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    Character
    Andre Cat
    World
    Lich
    Main Class
    Red Mage Lv 60
    It’s Official!! The Sch class is dead...
    I did 50/60/70 roulette with a level 70 dungeoun, levelling with the lv 61, I did Raids for exp and now I am officially depressed
    Now let’s state a few points:
    1) Bane was amazing for dungeouns and mobs in general (trials adds as examples)
    2) Art of war is just silly: the animation doesn’t make sense for a healer and it annoys me that cost more than Holy
    3) It’s horrendous not having a dmg aetherflow skill because it’s silly to have to waste a lustrate just to finish your aether rail
    4) ED was essential not for dmg but for mp management.
    5) Pet action are not more Pet actions but now ogcds.
    6) The people playing Sch can cheer for the lost of our identity and dps rotation only because the class was too complicated to optimise for them. Ast could out-dps the Sch only because as Ast you literally can always cast.
    7) Clip your broil is always better than R2 if you need to single weave.

    Btw just saying, the fact that piety will be relevant it’s a lie. You gain 3 more mp each tick every 40 piety in your gear, try to believe!
    854 piety = 238 mp for tick
    974 piety = 247 mp for tick
    1054 piety = 253 mp for tick

    Let’s all be Dancers, shall we
    (11)

  2. #102
    Player
    Eloah's Avatar
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    Jan 2015
    Location
    Gridania
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    Character
    Toki Tsuchimi
    World
    Siren
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 100
    It seems like SE has certain skills they try so desperately to cling to and make work, or be "viable" but they just aren't able to fix properly. Dissipation is one, One Ilm Punch was another, but thankfully that was removed. Sleep, Mug, Wildfire. And I'm sure there are a few more. Their initial use is very niche, and they try to add something to make it work, and sometimes they "succeed" but other times it's like beating a dead horse bird.
    (1)
    I like helping people with their Job ideas, it's fun to help them visuallize and create the job they'd like to play most. Plus I make my own too, I'll post them eventually.

  3. #103
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    NyneSwordz's Avatar
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    Character
    Dugu Qiubai
    World
    Midgardsormr
    Main Class
    Marauder Lv 90
    Would be nice to be able to spread dots. I miss bane.
    (3)

  4. #104
    Player
    Eloah's Avatar
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    Jan 2015
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Toki Tsuchimi
    World
    Siren
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 100
    Quote Originally Posted by NyneSwordz View Post
    Would be nice to be able to spread dots. I miss bane.
    But in order to spread DoTs we first need to have DoTs. This is like the SB launch all over again, but worse.
    (5)
    I like helping people with their Job ideas, it's fun to help them visuallize and create the job they'd like to play most. Plus I make my own too, I'll post them eventually.

  5. #105
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    Cake-Thief's Avatar
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    Sep 2015
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    Ul'Dah
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    Character
    Theia Dante
    World
    Cactuar
    Main Class
    Warrior Lv 70
    Part of me is clinging onto hope that they'll rework Scholar and it'll be somewhat fun to play again. But seeing the dev's stance on healers and how they really just gutted Scholar this time around, it doesn't look very good.
    (4)

  6. #106
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    Loki's Avatar
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    Location
    Uldah
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    Character
    Loki Vanheim
    World
    Spriggan
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 90
    Same i have done few dungeons and it's just borring and not fun to play sch anymore!

    DPS and Tank were happy, i just wanted to log out.

    And why aetherflow can be used ONLY during a fight seriously?

    Everything in the job changes are made for not having fun SE?????
    (13)

  7. #107
    Player
    Ramziez's Avatar
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    Jul 2017
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    Character
    Xida Mhasi
    World
    Faerie
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 90
    buT hEALERS NEeD to BE PURE HeALerS!

    Seriously though I don't understand what Square fails to get about what made scholar fun? Nobody likes having a one button rotation for whenever there is downtime in the healing department. Part of being a good scholar was to be able to bust out your DPS rotation because you were doing a good job at mitigating damage from your party. And all we get from Square after they remove all of our rotation is a god awful AOE that might do more damage but is quite literally the most boring move I have seen throughout the entire game.

    At least dancer is fun. And hey, to all the people that were saying "Wait until ShB comes out before passing judgement, guess what! Shadowbringers is out and our thoughts about the changes were entirely right!
    (18)

  8. #108
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    CardaNL's Avatar
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    Character
    Carda Monokuman
    World
    Zodiark
    Main Class
    White Mage Lv 70
    Almost burst out in tears when I 'played' with my SCH and AST.... not much to add to the discussion, last 10 posts mentioned all the breaking points
    (9)

  9. #109
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    Icefall's Avatar
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    Gridania
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    Character
    Neriya Fior
    World
    Sargatanas
    Main Class
    Pictomancer Lv 100
    I just keep feeling like I'm walking on phantom stairs, putting a foot out for the next step and nothing's there. This isn't just in muscle memory, but the whole gameplay for scholar now feels off and lacking. Even the animations (yes, I'm looking at you, Art of War) feel underwhelming or inappropriate. It irks me so much that I, a scholar of all jobs, can't be prepared at all times with loaded aetherflow, that I have to wait for battle, especially since now they are only linked to heals. Sorry person outside my party who I just helped raise, I can't give you a quick top off lustrate since there's no fight going on.
    (5)

  10. #110
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    CaesarCV's Avatar
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    Jun 2016
    Location
    Limsa Lominsa
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    278
    Character
    Faire Eravyn
    World
    Jenova
    Main Class
    Scholar Lv 80
    Oh dear. It looks like I have something to look forward to today...
    (1)

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