Thread: Scholar 5.0 Discussion

Some posted their suggestions on how it could change so wanted to try my hand aswell. The orginal thoughts spanned four pages so I'll try to condensate it:

1. Bring back mortal and buffable Lily, and restore their fairy skills to the pet Hotbar including Embrace. Joy of scholar was feeling I worked in tandom with the fairy. They seemed to make Silence a big thing in regular content which could mean Selene's skill a chance to shine more.
2. Restore ACN skills. Reason I felt SCH was engaging was combining abilities with all the different things you could do that stemmed from Arcanist skills like Energy Drain, Bane, Sustain, Virus, Shadowflare, E4E, Rouse, the Dots on different durations and especially Miasma 2.
3. I feel I take as long to kill an overworld mob as I do on PLD. Only difference is on pld I use 10 skills, on SCH I use 3. I would like to see damage on Broil III, Ruin 2 and Biolysis reduced and it's potencies spread over 3 more dots to manage to make combat more engaging. Then maybe have Ruin 2 as some kind of finisher based on how many dots you have up.
4. I feel Fey Union could now be replaced by a stronger Rouse. And instead, with fairy skills restored, have our own "Dark Arts". Call it "Fey Exhiliration", and the next non-Embrace Fairy skill you use costs Fairy gauge and gets an additional effect.
5. Instead of Lucid Dreamning, let AF restore 20% mana again (and give each healer an interesting way to restore their mana).
6. Quickend Aetherflow was fun. I would like to see it restored.
7. Recitation. This is like the skill scholars should always want, but never get. I say remove it and Catalyse. The few times you manage to spread a critical adlo was such a thrill without equal.
Edit: 8. How could I forget. A Cleric Stance that still comes with a risk. Like +20% damage -50% healing and a 5 sec cooldown before you can leave the stance.
Bonus. Flavored Esunas once again in the form of Leeches.

In short:
I'd like to have more buttons to achieve the same effect we have now, having to wrangle the fairy to do so, do same amount of damage with more effort and instead of being a healing powerhouse achieve less damage going to the party through buffs and debuffs.

Anyone got a good grip on Seraph use yet? I have only done the optional dungeons, not the new EX trials yet, and have only used it just to try it out, I haven't had an actual use for it. It seems clunky and weird, because the actual seraph CD is 2minutes and lasts 20s, but it doesn't last long enough to put two Consolations(CD is 20s but effect lasts 30s...) without them overlapping(it's not as if we can cast consolation right after due to the GCD on literally everything now)

IDK, I'm gonna need to play with Seraph a lot to figure out optimal use... I'm increasingly confused behind the design idea behind 5.0 Scholar.

I like the new SCH tbh

I'm happy that Shadowflare is gone, that Skill was just annoying af
DPS Rotation is a bit boring, that's true. But it was never rly entertaining anyway. Just the same as AST had it, and i'm fine with that.

SCH has the best healing kit now (again)
Soil OP, the new Skills are all good

Only Dissipation is a bit useless until now, maybe this will change in savage & ultimates.

For Atherflow it would be good, to have an extra Skill which give us Mana back, if we don't need the Stacks and Atherflow is already back on CD.
A Dmg Skill is not needed for the Stacks, just something that give either Mana or a small healing Buff

Originally Posted by Ftail

I disagree that SCH has the best healing kit. Unless you mean for Ex Trials where damage isn't that severe, then I agree. I was told by a tank that Akademia Anyder first 3 mob pull in the dungeon could be easily done with a WHM. If you try it on a SCH you'll just be in for a bad time once you run out of aetherflow usage. I haven't tried it with a geared tank, healer, and DPS yet. My first time ever into that dungeon, the tank pulled 3 mobs and died. He didn't wait for me to respawn, and he went and pulled 3 mobs again then bitched at me that the WHM he had last time was able to handle that pull. I ended up just feeling bad and left the group to have a 30 min wait timer.

This was the only time in any content that I felt my heals were lacking. Not on Ex Trials, not on any normal bosses, and not on any of the other pulls in a dungeon.

I didn't have Problems with any Masspull in all ShB Dungeons.
Sure Holy carries Masspulls easier with its Stun, but how smooth this goes also depends on Playerskill from you, the Tank and the Dmg of the DPS.

So what Laria said :3

Originally Posted by Endeleon

Anyone got a good grip on Seraph use yet? I have only done the optional dungeons, not the new EX trials yet, and have only used it just to try it out, I haven't had an actual use for it. It seems clunky and weird, because the actual seraph CD is 2minutes and lasts 20s, but it doesn't last long enough to put two Consolations(CD is 20s but effect lasts 30s...) without them overlapping(it's not as if we can cast consolation right after due to the GCD on literally everything now)

IDK, I'm gonna need to play with Seraph a lot to figure out optimal use... I'm increasingly confused behind the design idea behind 5.0 Scholar.

Consolation can stack with your other shields so it's good in that regard. Basically you want to Consol when you summon seraph and right before she goes away.