Male Viera as a playable character! show your support

[Theodric]

More customization was also never confirmed that I'm aware of, correct me if I'm wrong, but that would mean ppl with old races haven't even begun to wait by using that logic

They've stated that they want to do it, so long as they can deal with the limitations involved. More recently their tone has become a lot more positive towards such things - presumably because they're well aware that to lure in more new players they need a broader variety of character options.

[Lauront]

It has nothing to do with the average user spec. They would also risk seriously diluting the value of any investment they were to put into the graphics upgrades if they were to push them that far out.

They may have skipped over a bump up to the spec for 5.0 but there's little chance that they will do the same for 6.0 and in any case, it's irrelevant.

[zeylos]

They've stated that they want to do it, so long as they can deal with the limitations involved. More recently their tone has become a lot more positive towards such things - presumably because they're well aware that to lure in more new players they need a broader variety of character options.

In that case, I think that they should give players the option to play as both sexes on any race, and then add more hair colors and hairstyles. Also, considering we will likely only get 1-2 new faces or eyes or something like that per race, that shouldn't meant hey can't do the missing genders for 6.0, considering modders, with limited quality due to a limited way to do mods, have already done the previously stated. Also, from what I've hear, I believe Yoshida simply said they'll look into it? Correct me if I'm wrong, but they haven't said anything since and I believe they said this at least 2 years ago. I do hope we get more customization ofc, but I also hope they prioritize male viera and female hrotgar

[Lauront]

He discussed it as recently as the art panel during the EU fanfest, as well as when it came up during the guest sessions with Yoshi during the JP fanfest, and it has come up in several interviews, including the one I linked.

[zeylos]

He discussed it as recently as the art panel during the EU fanfest, as well as when it came up during the guest sessions with Yoshi during the JP fanfest, and it has come up in several interviews, including the one I linked.

I saw the interview and it states that they'd only be able to do 2/3 of gear. I think that if SE gets a bigger budget, or decides to sacrifice gear for something, it'll be missing genders>Customization>Graphics mostly because the graphics already look very good. Compare it to WoW lol

[LittleChickenNugget]

I'd personally rather have a full viera race, since it follows the game asthetics better and is more demanded imo, but I'm fine with whicever. Anything but genderlocks for me

They are never going to introduce one without the other. Ever. If they did, it would be an even bigger backlash. Either the male and female counterparts will be put in together or not at all.

[Senn]

For what it's worth, I'd also like it if the dev team prioritized adding male viera and female hrothgar. I do hope for more character customization for current races in the future still.

[Lauront]

I saw the interview and it states that they'd only be able to do 2/3 of gear. I think that if SE gets a bigger budget, or decides to sacrifice gear for something, it'll be missing genders>Customization>Graphics mostly because the graphics already look very good. Compare it to WoW lol

Yes but it's not just competing with WoW anymore, but several other MMOs (and non-MMOs) besides, some of which look very polished and allow significantly more scope for customisation in character creation. When you're asking a consumer to devote their money and time to the game, it's not just a case of what other MMO could they be playing but what other uses in general could that time/money go towards.

It is worth considering that the addition of the missing genders and the high res texture conversion present the same problem (converting existing assets) and so solving this issue would by implication ease the addition of the missing genders. It is also the same problem that having multiple body types per race poses. The gear output was just an example of a trade-off that could take place, with his point being that they're trying to find ways to render the conversion of assets more efficient. Thus why I say I would rather they prioritised this.

[zeylos]

They are never going to introduce one without the other. Ever. If they did, it would be an even bigger backlash. Either the male and female counterparts will be put in together or not at all.

I didn't mean it like that. I meant to say what race would ppl have prefered to get, as a full race, with the other one being either saved or scrapped at 5.0

Yes but it's not just competing with WoW anymore, but several other MMOs (and non-MMOs) besides, some of which look very polished and allow significantly more scope for customisation in character creation. When you're asking a consumer to devote their money and time to the game, it's not just a case of what other MMO could they be playing but what other uses in general could that time/money go towards.

It is worth considering that the addition of the missing genders and the high res texture conversion present the same problem (converting existing assets) and so solving this issue would by implication ease the addition of the missing genders. It is also the same problem that having multiple body types per race poses. The gear output was just an example of a trade-off that could take place, with his point being that they're trying to find ways to render the conversion of assets more efficient. Thus why I say I would rather they prioritised this.

IMO if they prioritize gear modeling research to automate it, they will make the game 5000x times better with different body types, more races, missing genders etc...

[SturmChurro]

I saw the interview and it states that they'd only be able to do 2/3 of gear. I think that if SE gets a bigger budget, or decides to sacrifice gear for something, it'll be missing genders>Customization>Graphics mostly because the graphics already look very good. Compare it to WoW lol

I don't think it's just as simple as "a bigger budget", maybe if they hire contractors, but what ends up happening is they end up having too much staff and start needing to make sweeping lay-offs. I'm not gonna claim to be an expert in that field, but blizzard was hit by massive lay-offs and they have a huge budget, granted I think a lot of those were community management and e-sports positions.