We are in need of a official response to the healer situation

[Semirhage]

Imo this is just a part of a two sided coin. With each side being an extreme. One side does zero dps and just stands around a lot, and one side tunnels to the point people die. Whenever anyone wants to discuss this topic it is always one of the extremes. And both sides resort to name calling and mud slinging.

I'm gonna have to hard disagree here. I'll bet if you rummaged deep enough into the pile of existing healers you'll find some rare treasure who refuses to heal, that's something I can't disprove. There's also a difference between someone who tunnel visions and occasionally flubs their heal because of it, and someone "refusing to play their role". There are uncountable scenarios we could hash over. Did you have five vulnerability stacks and get one shot by a tank cleave? Did you get marked up with a prey and the healer missed you? There's a ton of wiggle room there.

But if you mean to tell me that the average person who stands around and doesn't do anything between heal casts and the person going berserker blast on Holy and Assize while whipping out Tetras (and yes, once in a long while losing their game of health chicken) are just "two sides of an extreme", I think that's asinine. Utilizing your kit is the logical progression of job mastery. Healers who just stand around and spam Medica eat mechanics to the face way more often than the others.

People who want to stand around and heal? Can't stop 'em. Their sub and all that. What I disagree with is the implication that heal-onlies also speak from some equivalent position of experience.

[Feidam]

I'm gonna have to hard disagree here. I'll bet if you rummaged deep enough into the pile of existing healers you'll find some rare treasure who refuses to heal, that's something I can't disprove. There's also a difference between someone who tunnel visions and occasionally flubs their heal because of it, and someone "refusing to play their role". There are uncountable scenarios we could hash over. Did you have five vulnerability stacks and get one shot by a tank cleave? Did you get marked up with a prey and the healer missed you? There's a ton of wiggle room there.

But if you mean to tell me that the average person who stands around and doesn't do anything between heal casts and the person going berserker blast on Holy and Assize while whipping out Tetras (and yes, once in a long while losing their game of health chicken) are just "two sides of an extreme", I think that's asinine. Utilizing your kit is the logical progression of job mastery. Healers who just stand around and spam Medica eat mechanics to the face way more often than the others.

People who want to stand around and heal? Can't stop 'em. Their sub and all that. What I disagree with is the implication that heal-onlies also speak from some equivalent position of experience.

And you kind of just proved my point, with a very strong reaction to someone mentioning the other side. In my experience the number of people that just stand around and the number who tunnel vision are about equal. And both sides want to protect their precious stand point. The middle where most folks are understand that to fully utilize the kit is a more successful use of the groups time. Of course there is various levels of success per individual player skill. But what is asinine is to ignore the other aspect where healers favor dps more than tossing a heal and someone dies. Not just the occasional death either, but some of the healers let it happen consistently. Happens more than you are willing to admit it seems. And quite frankly neither side should speak from a position of authority on the matter.

And someone who stands around and heals only isn’t refusing to play their role assuming everyone stays alive. They are playing suboptimally though.

I also do understand healer anxiety and all that, but I do struggle with why folks just want to just stand around and not slowly adapt. Seems boring. Oh well, like you said it is their dime.