Scholar notes from E3 build - Titania Fight

[Eloah]

OMG, that hotbar looks naked. T.T

See I never had the space issue, now Its gonna feel awkward just having empty spaces. And on a crossbar those cant be hidden, double T.T

[Amon-ster]

1: Terrible information gathering to use a toned down, MSQ trial to gauge the difficulty of content and the changes to the battle system. Believe it or not, anything required to progress the MSQ is DUMB easy. The one time they make something -remotely- difficult in the MSQ, the forums are flamed and it's changed (see: Royal Menagerie, The Burn). Don't forget that Cape Westwind is a thing, so there are huge discrepancies in the difficulty of content.

2: Let's not pretend that SCH isn't broken in Stormblood. They completely deserve nerfs.

3: Let's also not pretend that the SCH damage rotation is "complex" to begin with. Once you figure out when and where you need to heal (which you're still going to need to do as that comprises the true complexity of any healer class), you maintain your 2 DoTs and spam Broil II, and press the Energy Drain button to dump flow. Majority of your GCDs are Broil spam, so it's business as usual.

[Yuyuka3]

OMG, that hotbar looks naked. T.T

See I never had the space issue, now Its gonna feel awkward just having empty spaces. And on a crossbar those cant be hidden, double T.T

Looks like WHM's hotbars in 4.0 to me. But back then, I was told I'm "fine", and that there was no issue at all.

1: Terrible information gathering to use a toned down, MSQ trial to gauge the difficulty of content and the changes to the battle system. Believe it or not, anything required to progress the MSQ is DUMB easy. The one time they make something -remotely- difficult in the MSQ, the forums are flamed and it's changed (see: Royal Menagerie, The Burn). Don't forget that Cape Westwind is a thing, so there are huge discrepancies in the difficulty of content.

2: Let's not pretend that SCH isn't broken in Stormblood. They completely deserve nerfs.

3: Let's also not pretend that the SCH damage rotation is "complex" to begin with. Once you figure out when and where you need to heal (which you're still going to need to do as that comprises the true complexity of any healer class), you maintain your 2 DoTs and spam Broil II, and press the Energy Drain button to dump flow. Majority of your GCDs are Broil spam, so it's business as usual.

If you won't let that count, how about this quote from Yoshi-P on reddit:

The difficulty of the Eden raid will be close to that of the creator (Alexander floors 9~12). They expect players to not be used to the lv 80 jobs, so the required DPS will be lower than usual.

"The required DPS will be lower than usual." Of the first raid tier.

[Amon-ster]

"The required DPS will be lower than usual." Of the first raid tier.

I don't expect the game to get any drastically harder, I should mention that. The community wouldn't allow that, as the vast majority of FFXIV playerbase belongs to that category of folks who thought Royal Menag on release was too hard. That being said, I feel they are going the right way with healers. I think it's a process of baby steps that will eventually pan out to a broader and better experience.

A lot of people give FFXIV devs flack for not fixing any of their problems, but this is the same company that dropped the moon on their game and re-released it in possibly the biggest video game comeback of the century.

[Sebazy]

Also worth nothing that Creator was arguably the overall easiest raid tier this game has seen.

Kind of a shame as A10S and A11S were both stellar fights even with their timing and phase pushing quirks.

[PaulH]

No, No, No, No and more just NO!

The fight is a level 73 fight with level 73 skills and the SHB Scholar isnt even 80 yet so the opinions are null and void in regards to how scholar plays until we have the whole kit. It is just conjecture until we get our hands on it and then see how it feels. I get we know it will be cut down and boring based dps wise on what we know so far but lets see first. I dunno why people get so worked up yet on pre-empting things they have had no experience of. pffft

[Ilenya]

1: Terrible information gathering to use a toned down, MSQ trial to gauge the difficulty of content and the changes to the battle system. Believe it or not, anything required to progress the MSQ is DUMB easy. The one time they make something -remotely- difficult in the MSQ, the forums are flamed and it's changed (see: Royal Menagerie, The Burn). Don't forget that Cape Westwind is a thing, so there are huge discrepancies in the difficulty of content.

Were those two changed, though? Also, Cape Westwind, while not terribly hard, did used to have some challenge to it (Namely, the adds overpowering the party and the MASSIVE AoE he used to use), but these days we are so easily outgearing it that it's a laugh.

Also, wasn't one of the worries having a boring LEVELING CURVE? How does commenting on a level 73 Trial not talk about that?

[WaxSw]

No, No, No, No and more just NO!

The fight is a level 73 fight with level 73 skills and the SHB Scholar isnt even 80 yet so the opinions are null and void in regards to how scholar plays until we have the whole kit. It is just conjecture until we get our hands on it and then see how it feels. I get we know it will be cut down and boring based dps wise on what we know so far but lets see first. I dunno why people get so worked up yet on pre-empting things they have had no experience of. pffft

"Wait til 80" Just to confirm that all of our worries were right when we reach that level like in Sb? If the job is boring and bad developed for 73 levels out of 80 that means that during 91% of your leveling experience AT LEAST you've been playing with a wrong designed job, something that shouldnt be considered not even remotely acceptable, lets not say that if we see the skills that would be aded in the next 7 levels any of them would solve the problems we've been saying since the tooltips were reavealed.

Saying "Wait til X" its just fooling yourself to not acknolwedge the problems that the jobs CLEARLY have.

[Amon-ster]

Were those two changed, though? Also, Cape Westwind, while not terribly hard, did used to have some challenge to it (Namely, the adds overpowering the party and the MASSIVE AoE he used to use), but these days we are so easily outgearing it that it's a laugh.

Also, wasn't one of the worries having a boring LEVELING CURVE? How does commenting on a level 73 Trial not talk about that?

Royal Menag got The Echo. Burn hasn't changed (thank God). Unfortunately MMOs aren't designed with back tracking in mind, otherwise Paladin wouldn't be stuck with Rage of Halone combo from 1-60.

[Yuyuka3]

Royal Menag got The Echo. Burn hasn't changed (thank God). Unfortunately MMOs aren't designed with back tracking in mind, otherwise Paladin wouldn't be stuck with Rage of Halone combo from 1-60.

I think the problem with the Burn was just that it was having such bad delay issues that you couldn't see the AoE marker of the last boss when he does his charges, that's all. It was broken, so they only had to fix it, not change it. So, yeah, those examples don't even really count...