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    Kaethra Tatrinae
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ilyrian View Post
    Out of interest - do you remember your build?
    And were you taken as a Shadow Priest - or a did you actually take the spot of a healer.
    Cause an Spriest was useful as the mana battery, obviously, but in no way had the mana to sustain the role of a full healer.

    Of course in a 40 like MC you can take 15-20 people who know what to do and they can more or less drag the Ret Pallies and Balance Druids etc through it... but it wasn't not just optimal it was deliberately going against the (bad) game design.

    But of course if it worked and nobody cared then fair play.
    Healer, and I don't quite remember them being able to give mana, but my memory on that might be janky. I believe the replenishment buff didn't come till an expansion. That was given to Ret Pallies, Shadow Priests, and I want to say one of the druid specs in Lich King. But now that I think about it, it may have started with shadow priests in BC.

    As for the spec, I know it had enough to get shadowform. So at least a 10/10/31 spec. Possibly 10/5/36.
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    Lhei Amariyo
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaethra View Post
    Healer, and I don't quite remember them being able to give mana, but my memory on that might be janky. I believe the replenishment buff didn't come till an expansion. That was given to Ret Pallies, Shadow Priests, and I want to say one of the druid specs in Lich King. But now that I think about it, it may have started with shadow priests in BC.

    As for the spec, I know it had enough to get shadowform. So at least a 10/10/31 spec. Possibly 10/5/36.
    I second this, I dont remember giving mana in the early days... but I also sort of remember that being a thing sometime before BC? Damn its hard to find versioned talent calculators.
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    Deceptus Keelon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lersayil View Post
    I second this, I dont remember giving mana in the early days... but I also sort of remember that being a thing sometime before BC? Damn its hard to find versioned talent calculators.
    Shadow Priest Mana Battery was TBC via Vampiric Touch

    http://calculators.iradei.eu/talents/priest
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
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    Lyote Sharaia
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaethra View Post
    Healer, and I don't quite remember them being able to give mana, but my memory on that might be janky. I believe the replenishment buff didn't come till an expansion. That was given to Ret Pallies, Shadow Priests, and I want to say one of the druid specs in Lich King. But now that I think about it, it may have started with shadow priests in BC.

    As for the spec, I know it had enough to get shadowform. So at least a 10/10/31 spec. Possibly 10/5/36.
    Vampiric Touch was BC, that was the Mana Battery effect. in Classic they only had Vampiric Embrace, which party healed for 20% of your Shadow damage.
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    Ilyrian Silvermoon
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaethra View Post
    Healer, and I don't quite remember them being able to give mana, but my memory on that might be janky. I believe the replenishment buff didn't come till an expansion. That was given to Ret Pallies, Shadow Priests, and I want to say one of the druid specs in Lich King. But now that I think about it, it may have started with shadow priests in BC.

    As for the spec, I know it had enough to get shadowform. So at least a 10/10/31 spec. Possibly 10/5/36.
    I think you're right - I'm probably confusing Replenishment with Shadow Weaving. Need to get my Classic head back on >.<
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