I've kicked players for wearing the wrong gear!

[Kaethra]

its not a question of do you want to group with them, its a question of why they get to waste your time. If you are not a tank/healer, you may have have spent 10-30 minutes in queue, and however long in the dungeon before the kick. So why is the kickee paying the price in a random group finder?

Because they were born the way they were and wish to do things the way they wish to do them. We don't get the option to change other people.

The price being paid is because we failed as a society to live in a perfect system where this issue should never have come up. Instead relying on a dictatorship of the majority, aka democracy. We all pay that price one way or another.

[Awha]

we discussed this before, but ultimately you are conflating what should one do, and what can someone be punished for.

for example, if you and a friend punch some one in the face, and no one else sees, and you have fake alibi, you probably wont go to jail. That doesnt mean you should go around punching people in the face.

For me personally I am not conflating the two. I would not do or ask something of someone that I personally would not be okay with. If someone were to remove me from a group because they found me annoying, thought I was undergeared, or what have you. I would not have an issue, if in place of removal they berated or mocked then I would take offense though even at that point I would simply eat the timer and do something else.

While I like to understand why people do certain things I have no real control over the actions of others, only control over mine. So I simply treat others as I am okay with being treated. Even if I am treated otherwise sure I will be annoyed and maybe even upset. At that point I might report the person even if no action will be taken, but if someone wrongs me normally simply ignore them as a person, while maybe trying to understand why such a thing happened through the help of my support group.

[Hash_Browns]

I think I'll zone in like this next time I'm on just for giggles.

Make sure you're the tank or healer, just to scare people.

[Canadane]

This one is ilvl synced, so kicking someone for wearing lvl 50 gear for example would be abusing vote-kick.

It's ilvl synced to 290. So if, continuing to use my original example, someone walked in with an average ilvl of 1, I'm not keeping them there.
In your example, 50 is still much too low.

You can play how you want wearing what you want, but if at least 2 others want to play differently you don't get much choice.

[Hash_Browns]

This one is ilvl synced, so kicking someone for wearing lvl 50 gear for example would be abusing vote-kick.

Do.. do you think it syncs you UP, or something?

[Xtrasweettea]

This one is ilvl synced, so kicking someone for wearing lvl 50 gear for example would be abusing vote-kick.

You have to be trolling. I cannot think someone who values their time, even a little, would have your stance....

[Canadane]

Do.. do you think it syncs you UP, or something?

Oh man I didn't even realize this is what they may have thought.
This is also why we probably have people wearing next to nothing. misunderstanding of level sync.

[wereotter]

I wish Square-Enix would put class restrictions on accessories like they do with the rest of the gear.

There is actually a reason they can't/don't do this and it's the same reason we STILL have one-handed black mage and white mage weapons in the game. For this example, let's talk about someone who tanked in Heavensward and haven't logged in since Stormblood, but didn't have their character deleted. Maybe they had the account just canceled for the time being, and now that player decides to return to the game. If they were playing the way players expected at the time, they will be wearing all slaying accessories with vitality melds. Now those accessories would be locked to Dragoon, Monk, and Samurai, no tanks. So how do you deal with a character who now has an illegal item equipped on their character? They did fix this in the content past Heavensward by having class restrictions on accessories, and soon you won't see incorrect main stat melds as all of that Materia will be removed from the game starting with Shadowbringers.

So in not too long, no one will be wearing any incorrect main stat gear in any content that actually matters.

[Kaethra]

There is actually a reason they can't/don't do this and it's the same reason we STILL have one-handed black mage and white mage weapons in the game. For this example, let's talk about someone who tanked in Heavensward and haven't logged in since Stormblood, but didn't have their character deleted. Maybe they had the account just canceled for the time being, and now that player decides to return to the game. If they were playing the way players expected at the time, they will be wearing all slaying accessories with vitality melds. Now those accessories would be locked to Dragoon, Monk, and Samurai, no tanks. So how do you deal with a character who now has an illegal item equipped on their character? They did fix this in the content past Heavensward by having class restrictions on accessories, and soon you won't see incorrect main stat melds as all of that Materia will be removed from the game starting with Shadowbringers.

So in not too long, no one will be wearing any incorrect main stat gear in any content that actually matters.

Same way they fixed some item dependencies from 1.0 to 2.0. An NPC who trades items for others of the same purpose. So if you're a tank with Slaying gear, you can turn it in for fending versions.

[LalaRu]

This is another thread about you don't meet the "right" people in a PUG.

Gettin' old.