Why not make healers like Mercy from Overwatch?

[Kurando]

If we want to consider something from Overwatch, then perhaps Moira's kit would be more interesting to implement in FFXIV. Absorbing aether from enemies to restore allies, and throwing little healing orbs around or placing them like a well could be pretty cool.

[JackHatchet]

That would be cool! I'd just like to see more ideas that aren't so 2005. Where the DPS rotation is spam spells and dots. Gaming has come a long way since dps spells and dots, and I think there's a lot of room for innovation in healer design beyond "maybe throw some spells and dots in there when you have time."

I just greatly dislike how black and white the discussion always is with healers. Other games find lots of ways to make healers much more dynamic than pretending to be a dps mage on down time.

[Daralii]

I never see this idea come up. That's why I wanted to mention it. You say 'healer is fine,' but is it really? Or are you just being a jerk? I mean, that's such a blatant lie that I don't know the purpose other than to be a jerk. Because there's no way you can seriously believe that healers are fine, and that all complaints about them are done with?

But back to the point. I don't play a healer. I just had a cool idea I wanted to share. You can be toxic all you want, but I just wanted to share something that I haven't seen come up. We have 3 healers--they should have more options for different playstyles, right? Who doesn't want more options. And you're all out here "if it ain't don't fix it." and "It's all fixed anyways." Making me think you play healer even less than I do. Do you even play the same game?

You're getting crap because you're suggesting something that's been in the game for 4 years. You don't need to play a healer to know that The Balance, The Arrow, and The Spear exist, you just need to have gotten an AST in a roulette one time.

[JackHatchet]

You're getting crap because you're suggesting something that's been in the game for 4 years. You don't need to play a healer to know that The Balance, The Arrow, and The Spear exist, you just need to have gotten an AST in a roulette one time.

So what you're telling me is that an entire system is flawed, because it has RNG. And therefore a non-RNG system would also fail? I feel like you're missing that point. Mercy's damage buff IS NOT RNG, so why do people keep ignoring what I'm saying and commenting that AST is the same thing, but worse. Yeah, it's worse because of the RNG. Mercy doesn't have RNG.

I mean seriously, if you'd discredit any suggustion because of bad RNG--you'd might as well erase the whole game. Heck, healer DPS USED to be based somewhat on RNG, because they had a higher chance to miss with their damaging spells, but guess what? They removed the RNG aspect of hit chance.

Try not to be so short-sighted that you let the RNG aspect of a system ruin the entire system for you.

[Kalise]

I mean, technically, what's also being suggested is not like AST, because AST cards are oGCD. While, Mercy has to choose to Heal beam, Damage Beam or use her pistol for personal damage (But 99.99% of the time, you'll be just holding M1 with Heal Beam. Due to the nature of FPS games where your target's always going to be taking some damage... Also, unlike say, Ana whom burst heals like crazy so can afford to pot shot enemies for damage, Mercy's healing beam is slow, continuous healing. Hence why she's terribly designed. She's just a trash version of TF2's Medic whom at least had overhealing building up additional health beyond 100% which was critical for screwing with Snipers)

Meaning that the suggestion would be more akin to having GCD actions that buffed damage of others. As an alternative to pressing DPS buttons. This could come in the form of buffs and debuffs.

It is an interesting position, wherein it can create some interesting gameplay between periods of healing, which doesn't rely on having to have a complex personal damage rotation.

It however, is a long shot, because:

DaNcEr Is BuFfEr

Like, everything about buffs in ShB comes down to that statement. Nerf SCH's Chain Stratagem. Gut AST's cards. Continue to not give WHM a single buff (Despite White Magic traditionally being where literally all the Buffs in the FF series have been, from Berserk to Haste to Bravery to Faith and more). Why? Because Dancer.

Ignoring the fact that Dancer has all of 3 buffs... DMG up for Partner, Crit up for Partner and DMG up for Party...

All the while, you can easily make part of healer tDPS being that they can exploit weaknesses in the enemy or embolden their allies. Having SCH apply debilitating poisons and toxins as well as using skills like Libra. Have AST have a card system that isn't RNG and isn't neutered down into "All Card Make Damage Gooder". WHM can get some of the temporary buffs that are classic to the franchise.

This need not only stop at rDPS buffs either, you can also make healing somewhat about providing utility and defensive buffs. Who wouldn't like to see Protect and Shell being variants of Palisade and Apocatastasis respectively? Having Nul/Bar skills? Float? Gain-spells?

To say nothing about utility based debuff skills like Dispel, Blind, Slow, Fog or even Sap if they thought of a way to make it functional for the games combat system...

All this, could be an alternative to the upcoming 1 Nuke, 1 DoT, 1 AoE as a way to fill time between heals.

But no, because Dancer...

[Avidria]

If we want to consider something from Overwatch, then perhaps Moira's kit would be more interesting to implement in FFXIV. Absorbing aether from enemies to restore allies, and throwing little healing orbs around or placing them like a well could be pretty cool.

You... I like the way you think.

[Seoulstar]

this is a terrible idea. i know you want attention cause healer hot topic but cmon healer is fine now play it in 2 weeks and enjoy

not if you're an AST that doesn't want to be a balance bot

[Physic]

We did. It was in Heavensward and it was called Astrologian and it was awful. The only thing it could do was roll a d6 and hope for a Balance. If it got the Balance it was great, at all other times it was a subpar WHM.

except it must not have actually been awful by the time stormblood happened because it was a top healer in savage. Just because you personally don't like a mechanic in a job doesnt make it bad.

as to the OP, mostly because, the current stance is that all roles must have roughly the same capabilities, and balancing dps buffs versus dps isnt easy, since how well it performs depends on how well the team uses it.

i think its a problem, and would be better if jobs were diverse, but SE seems to want homogenization of classes.

[TheMightyMollusk]

I agree, healers should get a pistol.

[Awha]

I could ge t behind a healer only mount be being a set of wings.