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    Why not make healers like Mercy from Overwatch?

    I'll be up front that I don't play a healer as a main. I don't enjoy healing it stresses me out. Also. I loathe stance-dancing, so I never DPSed with cleric stance. I never took it. (I do DPS when I play a healer, because I get bored).

    Anyways, so to the main question. Why is everyone so black and white about healers doing damage? Why can't Square-Enix give us a buff/support healer class that augments OTHER DPS to make up for the difference?

    I constantly see post after post after post of people saying "I play a healer to help people," or "If I wanted to DPS--I'd play a DPS class."

    So why in Hydean's name do we not have a healer class that literally buffs the DPS of other players? Something like Mercy from Overwatch. When she doesn't heal--she can increase the damage output of her party by X%.

    Another thing while I'm rambling about this. Why can't they make healers more unique by exploring these options? I hated how all healers/tanks were 'stance based' when in Warcraft that's a 'single' classes' gimmick. It's not a role defining trait. What gives? Why so limited.

    I bet all those people who "I just want to heal" would gladly channel some +damage buffs onto their players. Then everyone wins. Healers get to be support. DPS get to do more numbers, and things die just as fast. Why has no one considered this?
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    We did. It was in Heavensward and it was called Astrologian and it was awful. The only thing it could do was roll a d6 and hope for a Balance. If it got the Balance it was great, at all other times it was a subpar WHM.
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    "Because Dancer is buffer."

    (Also, Mercy is one of the worst designed healers in any FPS game)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Callinon View Post
    We did. It was in Heavensward and it was called Astrologian and it was awful. The only thing it could do was roll a d6 and hope for a Balance. If it got the Balance it was great, at all other times it was a subpar WHM.
    Why not remove the RNG part of it? It sounds like you hate the RNG part.

    Mercy from Overwatch doesn't do RNG. She channels a flat DPS buff into players. RNG shouldn't ruin a good idea.
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    The same Mercy that was nerfed in to the ground and where other healers are much better than what she can bring? Back to FFXIV though, I mean what you are asking for kinda already exists with Astrologian, when they are not healing then they are buffing the party and this is being emphasized again in the next expac despite the reduction in the actual buffs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JackHatchet View Post
    Why not remove the RNG part of it? It sounds like you hate the RNG part.

    Mercy from Overwatch doesn't do RNG. She channels a flat DPS buff into players. RNG shouldn't ruin a good idea.
    That's what they're doing in Shadowbringers. Every card is a damage bonus, and then they have two more skills that increase damage. Scholars also have Chain Stratagem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by JackHatchet View Post
    Why not remove the RNG part of it? It sounds like you hate the RNG part.

    Mercy from Overwatch doesn't do RNG. She channels a flat DPS buff into players. RNG shouldn't ruin a good idea.
    Thats literally what the card changes did.

    EDIT: For the most part. Theres still "rng" but its always going to be a wanted buff now
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    Last edited by ADVSS; 06-12-2019 at 03:28 AM.

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    Back to FFXIV though, I mean what you are asking for kinda already exists with Astrologian, when they are not healing then they are buffing the party and this is being emphasized again in the next expac despite the reduction in the actual buffs.
    Well good! I'd like to see a support healer, and I'd like to see it as good as the other healers. It'd be a shame if they couldn't balance them in a way that still let them be unique. Then folks who don't want to DPS have a legitimate option.
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    this is a terrible idea. i know you want attention cause healer hot topic but cmon healer is fine now play it in 2 weeks and enjoy
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    Quote Originally Posted by guardin View Post
    this is a terrible idea. i know you want attention cause healer hot topic but cmon healer is fine now play it in 2 weeks and enjoy
    I never see this idea come up. That's why I wanted to mention it. You say 'healer is fine,' but is it really? Or are you just being a jerk? I mean, that's such a blatant lie that I don't know the purpose other than to be a jerk. Because there's no way you can seriously believe that healers are fine, and that all complaints about them are done with?

    But back to the point. I don't play a healer. I just had a cool idea I wanted to share. You can be toxic all you want, but I just wanted to share something that I haven't seen come up. We have 3 healers--they should have more options for different playstyles, right? Who doesn't want more options. And you're all out here "if it ain't don't fix it." and "It's all fixed anyways." Making me think you play healer even less than I do. Do you even play the same game?
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