Quote Originally Posted by van_arn View Post
The rule is as long as no one dies it's fine.

If a tank kills people by refusing to pick up adds, kick them and healtank. Because they refuse to do their job.

Tank is the least useful role in normal modes, so if they can't push one button to do their one job get rid of them.

The corollary to this rule is it doesn't matter what you personally want or are comfortable with, you should get kicked off if your party disagrees with you.
You're exactly the kind of person that pushed me away from tanking entirely. Rather than understand that everyone is not at the same experience level, gear level, or confidence level, and letting a player gain experience, you just choose to kick them so they can't gain that experience as a player they need. I'm certainly glad we're on different data centers so I'll never have to see you in a roulette....

I went through from level 30 to level 60 in Heavensward as a Dark Knight then got to the roulettes at level 60 without ever having done a large pull, and ran into players not caring, not listening, or not understanding when I explained that I had poor gear compared to my DPS and the level of the mobs, and didn't have the confidence to pull more than I was, and would get yelled at and kicked. So rather than get the opportunity to learn, I just abandoned the role entirely. New tanks need the opportunity to gain more confidence, and eventually they will be up to par with other more experienced tanks, and not everyone has a group of friends who will be willing to just run random dungeons over and over so they feel okay with it, so they just use the roulette to get there.

Also I feel like the tank needs to be aware of party composition. For example, I had a run back in the day where I got Halatali normal in a leveling roulette with a monk and dragoon, and a healer that was annoyed I was doing small pulls. But monk and dragoon at that level have zero AOE skills, so even after reminding the healer of this, the healer still just pouted and refused to DPS the smaller packs.