The 'unwritten rule' for non-tank pulls in dungeons

[Baxcel]

As a tank I agree with the motto "if you pull it you tank it" but I also add on that I will tank it once in done with my current pack.

The reason I go slow isn't because I can't handle it.. I go slow so my healer dosnt get stressed and so they can help with fighting instead of spamming healing

[Hash_Browns]

As a tank I agree with the motto "if you pull it you tank it" but I also add on that I will tank it once in done with my current pack.

The reason I go slow isn't because I can't handle it.. I go slow so my healer dosnt get stressed and so they can help with fighting instead of spamming healing

Healers don't get stressed when you pull large in level +50 content unless:
- They are bad at healing
- You are bad at tanking
- Either of you are new to the dungeon

Pull wall-to-wall is the general rule in dungeons that are high level because everyone has AOEs.

On the other hand, when a DPS takes the aggro of something and gets ripped to shreds, not pulling it off the DPS causes me to have to heal multiple sources when I could be DPSing.


Honestly, if a tank ended up not pulling mobs off of a DPS in late game dungeons, even if the DPS pulled it, I would probably give them a little nudge to take them before vote kicking them.

Do the job of your class, or get shown the door. If the DPS are pulling more mobs, it's because you are pulling very little, and making the dungeon take twice as long so you can watch netflix while tanking.

[Baxcel]

Healers don't get stressed when you pull large in level +50 content unless:
- They are bad at healing
- You are bad at tanking
- Either of you are new to the dungeon

Pull wall-to-wall is the general rule in dungeons that are high level because everyone has AOEs.

On the other hand, when a DPS takes the aggro of something and gets ripped to shreds, not pulling it off the DPS causes me to have to heal multiple sources when I could be DPSing.


Honestly, if a tank ended up not pulling mobs off of a DPS in late game dungeons, even if the DPS pulled it, I would probably give them a little nudge to take them before vote kicking them.

Do the job of your class, or get shown the door. If the DPS are pulling more mobs, it's because you are pulling very little, and making the dungeon take twice as long so you can watch netflix while tanking.

Sorry if I wasnt specific.. My healer is my IRL partner who is bipolar, has anexity, depression and PTSD. So yeah im going make sure he's the one that's comfortable and the dps will tank what they pull till I'm ready for the next group.

[Hash_Browns]

Sorry if I wasnt specific.. My healer is my IRL partner who is bipolar, has anexity, depression and PTSD. So yeah im going make sure he's the one that's comfortable and the dps will tank what they pull till I'm ready for the next group.

See this is more of a grey area that I really have no experience covering, I was talking about in general with Duty Finder groups.
If that's the way your IRL partner is comfortable playing, all the power to them. Either way stress is going to be caused.

I go into dungeon pugs as pld only for a reason. If I deem the healer, dps or both too weak for mass pulls, I only pull two groups at a time and can keep myself up with clemency. If dps pulls more however, I let him die, unless they aggro healer. If healer pulls more, Ill take it off after letting healer take a beating for a bit to watch him heal himself back to full a few times, so he learns his lesson.

Overall though, its player impatience or overconfidence which is the reason why if I feel like tanking random dungeons, I go as pally.

The problem here is that your healer is going to heal the DPS, and do their end of the job & ultimately pull aggro either way. Even if they don't, they now have to heal a squishier source as well as you.

[Drayce1]

See this is more of a grey area that I really have no experience covering, I was talking about in general with Duty Finder groups.
If that's the way your IRL partner is comfortable playing, all the power to them. Either way stress is going to be caused.



The problem here is that your healer is going to heal the DPS, and do their end of the job & ultimately pull aggro either way. Even if they don't, they now have to heal a squishier source as well as you.

Like I said. If dps pulls and aggro goes to healer, ill take the mobs immediately off, and usually use cover on the healer.

Tank dictates the pulls, it has been this way since the dawn of mmos concerning on the move content. Camp content, ala EQ and FFXi, it depends on what classes you had with you.

[Hash_Browns]

Like I said. If dps pulls and aggro goes to healer, ill take the mobs immediately off, and usually use cover on the healer.

Tank dictates the pulls, it has been this way since the dawn of mmos concerning on the move content. Camp content, ala EQ and FFXi, it depends on what classes you had with you.

I disagree.
Tanks don't get to decide how fast the dungeon goes because they are the tank.

[Drayce1]

I disagree.
Tanks don't get to decide how fast the dungeon goes because they are the tank.

You dont like it? Que as tank then, only those who disagree never played a tank long enough to know how it feels. If the tank feels the something is wrong with the dps or healer after the first pull and decides to one or two group at a time after that, you respect his decision. The reason why theirs so few tanks is because of players, like you, who "disagree" with how things work, and cuz of players like you, tanks get stressed out, fed up with it, retire, and play another role, or they just que with friends and fc members.

Im glad for the trust system, though ive rarely had to deal with much problematic players who thinks they know everything lately, trust system and fc members make my play experience pleasant.

Tanks dictate pulls, you want them to pull to the wall? Then you better hope that tank is not only geared for it, but you got the heals or dps to do it. If you dont, you get small pulls. Simple as that.

[ADVSS]

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Im sorry but I couldnt help noticing, best char name in the game and you heal too? LOL 10/10

[Mistyregions]

Healers don't get stressed when you pull large in level +50 content unless:
- They are bad at healing
- You are bad at tanking
- Either of you are new to the dungeon

Pull wall-to-wall is the general rule in dungeons that are high level because everyone has AOEs.

On the other hand, when a DPS takes the aggro of something and gets ripped to shreds, not pulling it off the DPS causes me to have to heal multiple sources when I could be DPSing.


Honestly, if a tank ended up not pulling mobs off of a DPS in late game dungeons, even if the DPS pulled it, I would probably give them a little nudge to take them before vote kicking them.

Do the job of your class, or get shown the door. If the DPS are pulling more mobs, it's because you are pulling very little, and making the dungeon take twice as long so you can watch netflix while tanking.

I mean that's a pretty crap attitude, and if you are asking someone to pull past game design, and only stick to your job description, well healers dont have the letters DPS in them, heal or get kicked and that's all you do.

See how dumb that sounds?

[Millybonk]

Healers don't get stressed when you pull large in level +50 content unless:
- They are bad at healing
- You are bad at tanking
- Either of you are new to the dungeon

Pull wall-to-wall is the general rule in dungeons that are high level because everyone has AOEs.

On the other hand, when a DPS takes the aggro of something and gets ripped to shreds, not pulling it off the DPS causes me to have to heal multiple sources when I could be DPSing.


Honestly, if a tank ended up not pulling mobs off of a DPS in late game dungeons, even if the DPS pulled it, I would probably give them a little nudge to take them before vote kicking them.

Do the job of your class, or get shown the door. If the DPS are pulling more mobs, it's because you are pulling very little, and making the dungeon take twice as long so you can watch netflix while tanking.

General rule by who's order? If I proclaim going from pack to pack is the new "in" does it also translate to a general rule?
It is more efficient to chain-pull groups, but expecting random people in a dungeon to play by your "general rule" is questionable.

Logical inconsistencies like that annoy me:

• Either every class has to do their job, meaning a slow tank going from pack to pack is doing his job, while a dps pulling instead of the tank isn't
• Or you're using a sleight of hand here, trying to excuses a dps who pulls intead of the tank because the tank is "too slow" under the guise of "Do the job of your class"

Decide, will ya, because all I can see is "Play by my rules, or I will kick you".