Male Viera as a playable character! show your support

[Senn]

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I disagree with you. I think omega m or minafumi are the best body types imo. I was under the impression Omega m was a modified elezen body. If not, it's still modified to the point where it is different than a hyur model, and if you think about it, some of the races probably used a hyur base and then have been adjusted. Meanwhile, you keep suggesting faces and body types that are straight up hyur. I think viera should have faces unique to viera, not hyur. Like I said, take a look at the concept art. Their faces are very distinct.

[Senn]

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How is that second picture elegant at all? I could definitely see minafumi's version of male viera living in the jungle and being warriors.

[Nestama]

I just have to laugh...ok Mr. Concerned citizen. I'm still gonna expect Viera to be here no matter what.

You do you, mate. Just don't say Yoshi-P lied if they don't show up in 6.0

[Amnmaat]

How is that second picture elegant at all? I could definitely see minafumi's version of male viera living in the jungle and being warriors.

Elegant is another one of those buzz words that don't mean anything. What's elegant to you can be grotesque to me. The only descriptors Yoshida should be talking about is concrete ones like tall and muscular, those are concrete. These subjective ones like Elegant don't do much. This is elegant but by your standards they're too rough I'm sure

You do you, mate. Just don't say Yoshi-P lied if they don't show up in 6.0

I think those that called Square Enix liars already unsubbed, there's no need to worry about them.

[Theodric]

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You're free to disagree, though there does not appear to be many here who want them to be short, slender and androgynous in the way in which you are proposing. I think that if they are added they are going to be tall, fairly well built and adhere to conventional standards of male attractiveness. I suspect that 'slim' will be used in relation to the bulkier races such as Hrothgar and Roegadyn with Viera men being as well-built as the Warrior of Light in the Stormblood cinematic at the very least.

[Senn]

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No, I like them in that concept art.
I also like them in this concept art:

I like the ones on the right side, too. Their face is similar to the typical viera facial structure. They have an air of mystery about them like many woodland creatures of folklore, and also a certain elegance to them. To me, viera fit a fantasy, magical, woodland creature trope. I think a hulking, brutish looking viera doesn't really fit the theme.

They are not as buff as the picture Theodore posted shows. They look lean and fit in the concept art, and I think it's perfect. Elegant isn't a buzzword, and considering your character model choice, I'm sure you have your own bias, as do I.

[Lauront]

I think that viera men would be most successful and appeal to the majority of people requesting them if they were designed to be tall and conventionally attractive with a decent amount of muscle mass. A muscle slider could be available to put them anywhere between lightly toned to bulky. As for height, a slider could be available to have them be anywhere from just above a Midlander male to around the same height as a male Highlander or Au Ra. I'd settle for them having a similar height range to their female counterparts, if not a little broader.

I can picture them as being very classically handsome, with at least one facial option along these lines:



Another facial option could be more ruggedly handsome, such as along these lines:



A more androgynous base face option could be added for those who enjoy such aesthetics, though I think it would be very strange for viera men to be designed to be that way across the board given their established lifestyles. Thankfully the game has an established track record of favouring conventionally attractive character designs, so with any luck that trend will continue moving forward.

All of this, of course, is dependent on the missing genders being added in the first place which is not a guarantee.

Agreed on those points. I think a broad range on a height slider, between the lower end of catboy or midlander height and Au Ra max height if feasible would be a decent compromise. Plus a muscle tone slider as alas a muscularity slider isn’t in the works in the immediate future.

Regarding hyur-like faces, I mean female Viera are ultimately somewhat hyur-like too, because they’re intended to be attractive by RL humans. So will it be with male Viera, and I think FrischeNq’s art features a face pretty close to the original concept art and a good, strong build.

I also don’t see how the Minafumi piece’s face is not hour-like and I’d also consider it to be too skinny. Certainly even more so than the Omega M art, which is the lower boundary of what I’d find appealing. I’d like bulkier than that, closer to an Au Ra, but it’s at least got some muscle on it.

[Theodric]

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I don't think they look elegant at all in the art you keep posting. Their facial features and mannerisms are abhorrent and creepy rather than graceful and fierce. I think they will be designed with conventional standards of male attractiveness in mind, much like how their female counterparts are designed with conventional standards of female attractiveness as a point of focus.

[Senn]

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You're also free to disagree. You keep saying I want them to be short, but I already said that I think the males being around the same height as females would be fine. The females are already very tall, so the males wouldn't necessarily be short. They would still be tall, just slightly shorter than the females. However, I don't much care about the height. They can be taller or shorter than the females. I've already told you this. I also think viera will be slim, but fit. I don't think they will adhere to the conventional standards of male attractiveness. Rather, I think they will have a typical viera facial structure that is rabbit like, as shown in the concept art.

[Senn]

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Just to clarify, I'm not talking about the face in minafumi's artwork, but the body type, which is slim but very fit.