Male Viera as a playable character! show your support

[Gwenorai]

its not that, people want variety, if you get the same male and female characters all the time it opens up only one story about one race but we got two.

I rather have two story driven character races than just one that we already know about, that's what you don't get, we know what Viera is it has nothing to do with the character its about lore and story but people will say hey who cares about lore and your story well guess what who cares about Male Viera then.

I already seen the excuses also oh the thread reached 500+ of support you mean the whole 15-20 people who keep posting over and over in the thread news flash your votes don't count twice, three times, 100 times lol

then you have people against it and people who care about lore and story.

then assuming people who don't even come to the forums want it.

Well my cousin plays this and even said he really could care less about Male Viera doesn't seem like it would fit in and he never seen one in 12 why even bother adding it.

his friend said no thanks that if it messes with the lore he don't want it.

I mean if it comes later down the road after they release a few more races and then explains why Male viera showed up maybe I wouldn't have a issue.

People are talking about male Viera and repeatedly posting in a forum meant for discussion. Wait, that's illegal. Man, I'm sorry but I can't even look at your argument and take it seriously because I know the only reason you're against male Viera - or rather a huge chunk of it, is because you want your bird race. You have complaints about your lack of a birdman, I suggest creating a thread and bringing it up.

Also, don't quote lore when there's literally no reason for lore to be a reason to stop it. It's getting old. That being said I'm sorry you can't have your birdman, it sucks when you can't play as something that you wish to in a game like this. That's why I'm here, to show my support for something that is within the realm of possibility in the next expansion or so. Not now, not next week, not next month - but years down the line. I'm here to talk to people of like mind because that's my choice to do so, it's not hurting you or anyone else.
Note; a Male Viera can leave the wood if its to protect the wood. A Warrior of Light/Darkness would fall into this category. Male Viera's also left the wood to hunt down those who would do it harm. The creator of them has basically all but green-lighted for them to be playable, there is nothing holding them back other than limitation and resources, not lore.

There's nothing wrong with people coming together and chatting about this. If you don't like that people are discussing it then just don't comment. I have no idea why you would purposely come into a thread to post how you don't like that a few people are posting in it and chatting - when perhaps only one person has ever brought up the size of the thread as a defence. Pages don't matter, the upvotes do. It's not that complex.

Finally, if you're not the person who was very much wanting the bird race - then I apologise profusely. Though I'm certain it's you and I'm not going to dig through your post history because it's not that deep.

[Alleo]

If you stay subbed to the game they legit haven't had a negative impact from you. Leaving the game would be the only way to hurt them so bumping this thread doesn't bother or affect them in any way. People need to get over themselves lol

No leaving the game (especially if someone still has enough love for it left) is not the only way to "hurt" them. You can decrease your sub for example. I have never done that many breaks in all the years that I played the game which means that they will lose at least half of my money. I may sub a bit more at the beginning of the new expansion but I will continue taking breaks after that. Also not going to buy the collectors edition either which also means lost money. If you have a veteran player that only buys the normal version, only subs half a year instead of all the time and that maybe does not buy any mog station item again then that is a money loss. Of course if we dont get the new genderes in 6.0 and the coming expansion is not better than Stormblood then I will take my sub down to zero but right now it still got me hooked a bit but wont be 100% anymore.

So you're telling that player housing is in less demand than bunny boyz?
Really now

Well it never had reached the amount of likes this thread has so it could hint that this has more demand. But in the end even those (like me) that dislike the housing system in this game are not really shutting up about it either. We had countless of housing threads about this but sadly it never reached the demand that this thread alone did. We still managed to give us more housing wards after the Shirogane disaster thanks to all the rage on the forum and on other sites. So it might sadly still not be instanced but our voices did change something that was somehow before that not possible. But be loud enough and suddenly out of fear of bad press we get it.

Why are you going to keep coming back if you dont care. At least I have a reason to be here.

I dont know why people cant not look at a thread they have no interest in, you can.....ignore it.

I dont understand it either. I am a bit active on this forum yet I would never go into threads that do not interest me even a little bit. Its really not that hard to ignore this thread and it hurts nobody if that thread is on the first few pages of the forum either.

Anyway bunny bois for everyone SE!

[NoirRen]

Why are you going to keep coming back if you dont care. At least I have a reason to be here.

I dont know why people cant not look at a thread they have no interest in, you can.....ignore it.

I heard somewhere that forums exist for engaging in discussions and sharing opinions.
I could be wrong though.

[Yllania]

I heard somewhere that forums exist for engaging in discussions and sharing opinions.
I could be wrong though.

Im sorry my post I made pages ago not even directed at you hurt your feelings.

[NoirRen]

Im sorry my post I made pages ago not even directed at you hurt your feelings.

I knew bunny lovers are a toxic part of the community.

[WhiteArchmage]

its not that, people want variety, if you get the same male and female characters all the time it opens up only one story about one race but we got two.

I rather have two story driven character races than just one that we already know about, that's what you don't get, we know what Viera is it has nothing to do with the character its about lore and story but people will say hey who cares about lore and your story well guess what who cares about Male Viera then.

I already seen the excuses also oh the thread reached 500+ of support you mean the whole 15-20 people who keep posting over and over in the thread news flash your votes don't count twice, three times, 100 times lol

then you have people against it and people who care about lore and story.

then assuming people who don't even come to the forums want it.

Well my cousin plays this and even said he really could care less about Male Viera doesn't seem like it would fit in and he never seen one in 12 why even bother adding it.

his friend said no thanks that if it messes with the lore he don't want it.

I mean if it comes later down the road after they release a few more races and then explains why Male viera showed up maybe I wouldn't have a issue.

In order (swear I've had to post this SO many times): It's not about lore and story, it's about wanting to please the most players possible with limited resources, and accidentally or intentionally (if you suscribe to the theory that Yoshi-P wanted the blowback to weaponize the fanbase and convince SE to give XIV a bigger budget) creating a demand for the missing parts of these races.

+ The comments don't matter as much as the likes on the OP, which is the most likes gotten by any thread in the forums. It's a forum for discussion, which means some posters will post several times, that's how it works.

+ Repeat after me: Other PCs don't matter to the Lore. Other PCs don't matter to the Lore. Other. PCs. Don't. Matter. To. The. Lore. If they did, we'd have to cut the male Moonkeeper pouplation by 90%, and Duskwight WoLs would be banned, and there could only be 1 WHM and 1 SCH per server (heck, per Data Center).

+ The opposite is also true: Don't assume people who don't come to the forums don't want it. My ex-bf does and he doesn't come here.

+ Lore doesn't even need to change, and in fact it already has: the Wandering Dramaturge said "to us, they may not exist" now the Races Lore only says they're rarely seen.

Also, this is more a general thing, but when people insult supporters, even the most calm ones tend to bite back, funny how that works.

[Lauront]

I’m sure Zeonx could be much more productive with his time and make the argument for the race he prefers in a thread dedicated to it. Lecturing us not to request mViera isn’t really going to change anyone’s mind, and the rather abrasive tone taken by some people expressing such a sentiment is scarcely going to convince anyone to listen to them.

[Veis_Alveare]

I think at this point with the level of attention this thread has recieved the fact that the likes have slowed to a dribble means we have 1.7k people officially asking for male Viera.

This is less than a drop in the bucket for SE. It's a very successful forum thread but it needs to be weighed against the cost of the request. When you consider the gear updates alone 1.7k subs (many of which are certainly not conditional on the inclusion of male Viera, like mine) certainly doesn't begin to touch the cost of implementing what would amount to another race.

Realistically I think people need to start to recognize that the people actively requesting male Viera are indeed a minority. I think there is a very strong chance we won't see male Viera or female Hrothgar beyond NPCs. People need to stop being so sure of the idea that they're coming, looking at this through an unrealistic lens doesn't help anything.

By all means keep asking, that's fine. Keep this thread going. That's cool... but maybe stop spreading the false notion that you have any sort of backup for the idea that the other genders are coming.

[Crushnight]

I think at this point with the level of attention this thread has recieved the fact that the likes have slowed to a dribble means we have 1.7k people officially asking for male Viera.

This is less than a drop in the bucket for SE. It's a very successful forum thread but it needs to be weighed against the cost of the request. When you consider the gear updates alone 1.7k subs (many of which are certainly not conditional on the inclusion of male Viera, like mine) certainly doesn't begin to touch the cost of implementing what would amount to another race.

Realistically I think people need to start to recognize that the people actively requesting male Viera are indeed a minority. I think there is a very strong chance we won't see male Viera or female Hrothgar beyond NPCs. People need to stop being so sure of the idea that they're coming, looking at this through an unrealistic lens doesn't help anything.

By all means keep asking, that's fine. Keep this thread going. That's cool... but maybe stop spreading the false notion that you have any sort of backup for the idea that the other genders are coming.

I would advise not using the likes to dissuade anything purely due to the existence of this thread,
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...w-your-support

why? because it had years on the forums yet it only had 403 'officially' wanting them, yet that was deemed highly requested yet it is not even 1/4 of this thread so if that was highly requested male Viera and female Hrothgar are beyond that lol.

As for tempering expectations yes people do need to do that its why i am in the 6.0 or bust camp because if it isn't 6.0 and they will have limitations like no headgear, they won't do it because they would have to start working on them in ShB for 7.0 anyway due to the large amount of gear that would be updated up to then

[Amnmaat]

I would advise not using the likes to dissuade anything purely due to the existence of this thread,
http://forum.square-enix.com/ffxiv/t...w-your-support

why? because it had years on the forums yet it only had 403 'officially' wanting them, yet that was deemed highly requested yet it is not even 1/4 of this thread so if that was highly requested male Viera and female Hrothgar are beyond that lol.

As for tempering expectations yes people do need to do that its why i am in the 6.0 or bust camp because if it isn't 6.0 and they will have limitations like no headgear, they won't do it because they would have to start working on them in ShB for 7.0 anyway due to the large amount of gear that would be updated up to then

Agree, if it was hard to add just female Viera and male Hrothgar for 5.0 I can't imagine how many more gear sets they'll have to re-model for 7.0. Either we get them by 6.0 (hopefully earlier) or we won't get them at all.
Also I don't need anyone to tell me to temper my expectations by the way, I am my own person I make my own decisions. I expect male Viera to be added by next expansion proudly and with flying colors.