Male Viera as a playable character! show your support

[Gwenorai]

I'm pretty sure they will have a build similar to elezen but better, and a facial structure similar to Fran, I guess. What I mean by that is rabbit-like features. So I do think they will be handsome, but not traditionally handsome. They will probably look bishounen. Of course, there will be a few facial options to choose from, and maybe there will be one that looks rugged or something.

So basically, elezen with better proportions and a face with rabbit features (like Fran). Yoshi P did comment that if they made male viera, they may have looked like Elezen with somewhat of a miqo'te type face. They would look handsome, slim, and elegant.

Of course, I'm expecting the whole 'Beautiful Ice King' trope, basically the same as Ice Queen but for a male. You all know what I'm talking about. The overly perfect looking man who just looks right through you and remains stoic. These guys need resting b*tch face x 100.

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Nah man, the NPCs are more than likely still going to have the same values. You might see a male out of there, but I have no doubt they're going to be like this regardless - especially the males. As for physique, I have doubts they're going to make a different body type for male viera NPCs and our male Viera because we might 'not be part of that' of that lifestyle, not without adding a lot of customisation sliders.

Either way we will see. The issue we have with them not releasing them in 5.0 so the lore fits around them being more active and whatnot means that when adding them in we're going to have a lot of retcons. Not that retcons are bad of course. It would be interesting to see a male Viera outside of the wood. But we also can't hinge it all on 'Muh RP'. Heck, we barely see any Male Miqote NPCs as it is.

[Senn]

Of course, I'm expecting the whole 'Beautiful Ice King' trope, basically the same as Ice Queen but for a male. You all know what I'm talking about. The overly perfect looking man who just looks right through you and remains stoic. These guys need resting b*tch face x 100.

If the female viera emotes are anything to go by, they will probably have a stoic and reserved demeanor. Their emotes would probably be cool.

[LittleChickenNugget]

If the female viera emotes are anything to go by, they will probably have a stoic and reserved demeanor. Their emotes would probably be cool.

I would think the males would have more aggressive emotes than their female counter parts. The females are more gentle in nature compared to the male. I think their emotes need to show their savage like history.

[zeylos]

Of course, I'm expecting the whole 'Beautiful Ice King' trope, basically the same as Ice Queen but for a male. You all know what I'm talking about. The overly perfect looking man who just looks right through you and remains stoic. These guys need resting b*tch face x 100.


Nah man, the NPCs are more than likely still going to have the same values. You might see a male out of there, but I have no doubt they're going to be like this regardless - especially the males. As for physique, I have doubts they're going to make a different body type for male viera NPCs and our male Viera because we might 'not be part of that' of that lifestyle, not without adding a lot of customisation sliders.

Either way we will see. The issue we have with them not releasing them in 5.0 so the lore fits around them being more active and whatnot means that when adding them in we're going to have a lot of retcons. Not that retcons are bad of course. It would be interesting to see a male Viera outside of the wood. But we also can't hinge it all on 'Muh RP'. Heck, we barely see any Male Miqote NPCs as it is.

I mean, going by how they live and all, would female miqo'te, a race of strong woman who live and struggle on the desert (at least the seekers), be wearing a small bra and a miniskirt as their racial armor and have the musscle of an anime waifu? I doubt it. Races aren't designed by lore, the race is almost 100% of the times designed to catter to a specific set of ppl, designed, and then a lore is made to fit them (kinda). Male viera wouldn't look strong becuase of lore, but because the devs think it would sell more. If not, look at female au ra and tell me that is a race of strong and fierce dragons

[Theodric]

Miqo'te have been shown to live as a group and develop settlements. The same can be said of Xaela. Viera women also live in groups.

Male viera are an exception and are described as spending most of their time in isolation. They also live long lives. Anyone who spends any major length of time with minimal contact ends up being at least somewhat feral in appearance and mannerisms - especially when living somewhere as deadly as a forest or jungle.

Assassins can be elegant and graceful, though also very savage.

[Gwenorai]

I mean, going by how they live and all, would female miqo'te, a race of strong woman who live and struggle on the desert (at least the seekers), be wearing a small bra and a miniskirt as their racial armor and have the musscle of an anime waifu? I doubt it. Races aren't designed by lore, the race is almost 100% of the times designed to catter to a specific set of ppl, designed, and then a lore is made to fit them (kinda). Male viera wouldn't look strong becuase of lore, but because the devs think it would sell more. If not, look at female au ra and tell me that is a race of strong and fierce dragons

They live in a desert. Tribal women also wear bras and skirts/loincloths in hot environments - some tribal women don't wear bras at all. To you, it's a mini skirt. To them, it's something that allows them to move without restriction while covering their backsides. Don't sexualise the clothes and look at the practicality.

No, when Yoshida was describing the male viera appearance, he said they would probably look elegant. Look, not move. Although I do think their emotes would also be elegant.

Ah, I see. I can see both. Maybe a mix. Who knows at this point.

[MikkoAkure]

I mean, going by how they live and all, would female miqo'te, a race of strong woman who live and struggle on the desert (at least the seekers), be wearing a small bra and a miniskirt as their racial armor and have the musscle of an anime waifu? I doubt it. Races aren't designed by lore, the race is almost 100% of the times designed to catter to a specific set of ppl, designed, and then a lore is made to fit them (kinda). Male viera wouldn't look strong becuase of lore, but because the devs think it would sell more. If not, look at female au ra and tell me that is a race of strong and fierce dragons

Where are people getting the idea that all miqo'te live a tribal existence in the desert or that's at least their point of origin? So far the only tribes we've seen in an actual tribal society are the U tribe of Thanalan and the M tribe (sorta) in Gyr Abania. The small amount of miqo'te in Thanalan doesn't even register on Ul'dah's demographics. Meanwhile 20% of Limsa Lominsa's population is made up of sun seekers and 95% of all miqos we bump into are cosmopolitan miqo'te who live in towns or cities, where fashion isn't dictated by survival. Suggesting that all miqo'te women need to be desert ready just because one or two small tribes out of 26 lives in the desert is like suggesting all hyur should have thick coats and thicker beards because some of them can be found in Coerthas. All that being said, this comparison doesn't work for male viera since we're explicitly told that ALL male viera hide in their jungles and that they're a bit savage.

And again it's a bit awkward to compare them to male moon keepers since the lore states that they still travel town to town and they just tend not to stay in one place for long. The existence of moon keeper miqo men as adventurers doesn't break any lore in my view since that fits their lifestyle. And though they may be rare, they're rare in Eorzea, where most of the game takes place and 100% of adventurers are from. Othard, where the viera are from, has no culture of adventurers and the part of Othard they live in is thousands of miles away in either direction from the story that we're involved with bar one series of raids where we're in and out. It'll be interesting to see how hrothgar and viera are brought into the story lorewise since neither are from Eorzea, but it's more of a stretch to see male viera make it since as far as we've seen, they're incompatible with society.

Don't get me wrong, I'm down for having male viera, but the lore was written under the assumption that they won't exist as a playable race/gender so making any comparisons to existing race/genders in the game doesn't mean a thing at this point.

[Theodric]

I'm of the firm belief that a fictional bunny race in a fantasy game is not a correct path to enforce subjective ideals.

Especially when there's people from all sorts of different countries, cultures and backgrounds playing this game.

Respectfully, I think some posters are projecting personal issues onto male viera even though there isn't any viable reason to do so.

[zeylos]

I'm of the firm belief that a fictional bunny race in a fantasy game is not a correct path to enforce subjective ideals.

Especially when there's people form all sorts of different countries, cultures and backgrounds playing this game.

Just when did I say any of that?
I simply said that to me the female viera's lingerie looked like if beyonce wore some scarlet blade inspired outfit for her VMAs performance, and that I hate how clothes are defined by sex. Exactly what on this means that I wanna use a bunny race to enforce ideals? Also, the only ppl who aren't represented are those who think like myself on this game, due to the various genderlocks, but It isn't a priority for me

[Lauront]

Let's also not pretend a toga/robe or attire like a hakama, or kilt is designed like a dress or skirt. The latter are designed with a feminine aesthetic and physique in mind.