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  1. #5701
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    DarkMasamune's Avatar
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yana-Chan View Post
    https://twitter.com/soushiyox/status...584134144?s=21

    Just give me this or something like the original concept (tall obviously)
    Oh, would you look at that FLOOF.
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  2. #5702
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yana-Chan View Post
    https://twitter.com/soushiyox/status...584134144?s=21

    Just give me this or something like the original concept (tall obviously)
    Oh my God.

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  3. #5703
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amnmaat View Post
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    Again we don't know definitively what they'll look like, yes we have concept art but the issue with concept art is that you really never know what'll be used. They have that concept art, ones with slender bodies, one with smaller bodies(that we know they won't use) and Yoshida's statement that they'd be tall and elegant with faces like miqo'te and body's like elezen.

    We could very much get an Au ra scenario where the final model looks nothing like the concept art, they could look huge and hulking or they could just look exactly like how Yoshida's designed. We don't know, again I'd rather they look somewhat like male highlanders/au ra but with better proportions. That being said I don't think there's any evidence that outright says they won't be x or y besides of course them being children, which we know will for sure not happen.

    Essentially, they'll look like what they'll look like, there's no point in getting bent up over it if someone wants something you don't want when their entire existence or chance of being added are up in the air.

    Quote Originally Posted by deadman1204 View Post
    Surprised this is still going. The dev team has consistently proven they are completely uncomfortable with approaching anything from a non male hetero position.
    The devs have already stated the reason for it not being added was resource, time, and feeling like hrothgar brought more. It most likely has nothing to do with hetero positions or not.
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  4. #5704
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amnmaat View Post
    Right, but do we want male Viera to be Garleans in disguise? That look is already taken by Garleans.
    It's taken by Zenos. Especially when you compare him to the likes of Varis, Solus, Nero, Cid or Gaius. Varis and Gaius, in particular, have very hard facial features.

    I wasn't saying they ought to look like him, anyway. More so commenting on the fact that it appears the bishounen look doesn't require a slender body. I like the original concept art as a basis for them.
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    Last edited by Lauront; 06-02-2019 at 05:45 AM.
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  5. #5705
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauront View Post
    It's taken by Zenos. Especially when you compare him to the likes of Varis, Solus, Nero, Cid or Gaius. Varis and Gaius, in particular, have very hard facial features.

    I wasn't saying they ought to look like him, anyway. More so commenting on the fact that it appears the bishounen look doesn't require a slender body. I like the original concept art as a basis for them.
    Agree, when I say bishounen I'm more so pointing out their entire physique which is normally that twink look OmegaM has. Zenos body on a bishounen is more of an exception. For all intents and purposes in general I just feel like they should have the "rabbit" face female Viera have with strong noses and pronounced/strong jaws; which the concept art adheres to.

    As for those saying that the concept art won't be what they'll look like you're being disingenuous. Male and female are based off each other, what female Viera looks like already informs us what male Viera will look like, it won't differe that much or at all from the concept art, the in game lore re-enforces this even more.
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  6. #5706
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    Quote Originally Posted by Amnmaat View Post
    As for those saying that the concept art won't be what they'll look like you're being disingenuous. Male and female are based off each other, what female Viera looks like already informs us what male Viera will look like, it won't differe that much or at all from the concept art, the in game lore re-enforces this even more.
    Except the female viera we got looked nothing like the concept art they had for the most part in terms of racial gear anyway and lack the actual fluffy tails they had, they're pretty much just fran. Even still we have a quote from Yoshida for what he thinks viera men would look like in his personal opinion, and as we know from Blue mage, when he describes something in an interview that's often how it ends up. A lot of the lore written about male viera was written by Matsuno, who recently in a tweet also stated he thought male viera would have 0% body fat and be built somewhat like boxers.

    That being said again, they'll look like what they'll look like, we just really don't know and getting up in a tizy over it won't change that. Stating what you'd like them to look like and posting images of that idea is a lot more productive than tearing down other people's concept of what they'd like them to look like(save for child-like bodies, as again those won't exist).
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  7. #5707
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yana-Chan View Post
    https://twitter.com/soushiyox/status...584134144?s=21

    Just give me this or something like the original concept (tall obviously)
    Oh noooooooo, I want them to have slutty racial gear like the female Viera, but that there is a bit much, even for me. >_>
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  8. #5708
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrKimper View Post
    Except the female viera we got looked nothing like the concept art they had for the most part in terms of racial gear anyway and lack the actual fluffy tails they had, they're pretty much just fran. Even still we have a quote from Yoshida for what he thinks viera men would look like in his personal opinion, and as we know from Blue mage, when he describes something in an interview that's often how it ends up. A lot of the lore written about male viera was written by Matsuno, who recently in a tweet also stated he thought male viera would have 0% body fat and be built somewhat like boxers.

    That being said again, they'll look like what they'll look like, we just really don't know and getting up in a tizy over it won't change that. Stating what you'd like them to look like and posting images of that idea is a lot more productive than tearing down other people's concept of what they'd like them to look like(save for child-like bodies, as again those won't exist).
    I don't know the female Viera concept looks like what we got. I mean they didn't need to make concept art for the female, they knew what the female would look like already and just copied it from FF12. They weren't going to deviate from the FF12 models. It's more likely to follow Matsuno's imagery anyway as the original creator - the respect Yoshida has for him is pretty intense.

    We can't forget that the concept art Yoshida also said they were still 'too cute' for him. So expect something manlier than the concept art. Which surprises me because I thought the concept art was pretty manly, I wonder how fierce/masculine he wants them?
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    Last edited by Gwenorai; 06-02-2019 at 06:30 AM.

  9. #5709
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yana-Chan View Post
    https://twitter.com/soushiyox/status...584134144?s=21

    Just give me this or something like the original concept (tall obviously)
    ... /blush
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  10. #5710
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    Quote Originally Posted by Gwenorai View Post
    I don't know the female Viera concept looks like what we got. I mean they didn't need to make concept art for the female, they knew what the female would look like already and just copied it from FF12. They weren't going to deviate from the FF12 models. It's more likely to follow Matsuno's imagery anyway as the original creator - the respect Yoshida has for him is pretty intense.

    We can't forget that the concept art Yoshida also said they were still 'too cute' for him. So expect something manly.
    I'm they look pretty wildly different from some concept art like the ones with full on rabbit heads and they look pretty different from XII viera who have longer nails and more elongated proportions, it's up in the air really, they'll look like how they'll look. There's evidence for them to be slim just as there is for them to be bulky, I'm pretty sure the cutesy comment was more just a reference to hrothgar/aimed at the smaller child like viera, since he went back to describing them as more elegant and handsome in a more recent interview. Slimmer builds don't necessarily equate to being unmanly after all.
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