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  1. 05-29-2019 11:23 PM #11
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    Quote Originally Posted by 416to305 View Post
    Sorry but that would only be true if you know, content was actually hard, but it's not. If you enjoy spending 50% of a fight standing around doing nothing waiting for someone to take damage so that you can heal them then all the power to you.
    Hence being okay means not dead. No one is asking you to keep everyone kept at full the entire time, that would be a waste of MP. It's more so to bounce back when when your tank is eating a TB or everyone would die to a raidwide.

    Otherwise it's doing as much DPS as you can between your own offensive actions/support.
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  2. 05-29-2019 11:24 PM #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noitems View Post
    Gasp! It's like they want the healers to actually focus on healing!
    Then get rid of every other job having a self heal so I can do the role I'm assigned.

    The Devs can't have it both ways. If they want healers to heal, make them heal. Stop giving other jobs tools for healers to have downtime with.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
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  3. 05-29-2019 11:27 PM #13
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    Then get rid of every other job having a self heal so I can do the role I'm assigned.

    The Devs can't have it both ways. If they want healers to heal, make them heal. Stop giving other jobs tools for healers to have downtime with.
    This. Plus, did you see the AOE heal dancer gets?
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  4. 05-29-2019 11:31 PM #14
    Deceptus
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    Quote Originally Posted by NorthernLadMSP View Post
    This. Plus, did you see the AOE heal dancer gets?
    Hell, SMN even got one via Phoenix
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]
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  5. 05-29-2019 11:36 PM #15
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noitems View Post
    Gasp! It's like they want the healers to actually focus on healing!

    I understand the complaint, but DPSing as a healer is a bonus for making sure everyone is okay. Healers have so much support especially between SCH and AST that even if they aren't casting their DPS skills their support skills more than make up for it.
    Except the whole reason we keep having this seemingly endless debate is because content doesn't hit hard enough to warrant focusing on healing. If the damage scaling remains relatively where it's at with Stormblood, then if you aren't DPSing 70-90% of the time, you're literally doing nothing.
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  6. 05-29-2019 11:36 PM #16
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    Hell, SMN even got one via Phoenix
    Maybe SE wants a solo-healer meta so they don't have to worry about inter-healer balance as much.
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  7. 05-29-2019 11:37 PM #17
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    Hell, SMN even got one via Phoenix
    Yikes, didn't know that. I'm in the process of listening to the YouTube videos now.
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  8. 05-29-2019 11:40 PM #18
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noitems View Post
    Gasp! It's like they want the healers to actually focus on healing!
    Now if only they made content where you actually had to spend more GCDs on healing than DPS.
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  9. 05-29-2019 11:47 PM #19
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    SCH have effectively a dot and a filler spell for 74 levels.

    WHM is basically the same with Dia and Glare.
    Quote Originally Posted by Truen View Post
    Rip Miasma 2
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    So do we get skills like that back after 74 levels or no?

    (At work, won't be able to watch videos or streams for many hours.)
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    Thanks for helping make the FFXIV community a fun and welcoming place. If you're not sure you have (and you very likely have), make it a point to be patient or helpful the next time you log in so that you can know you've made a difference.

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  10. 05-29-2019 11:49 PM #20
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    Quote Originally Posted by tinythinker View Post
    So do we get skills like that back after 74 levels or no?

    (At work, won't be able to watch videos or streams for many hours.)
    No. Bio turns into Biolysis which is an AMAZING 10 potency increase (heavy /s)

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    Last edited by Deceptus; 05-30-2019 at 12:47 AM.
    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]
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