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    Imagine playing Healer because you want to dps and not just playing a DPS job.
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    Quote Originally Posted by DuskTS View Post
    Imagine playing Healer because you want to dps and not just playing a DPS job.
    Think if tank had 2 buttons for emnity and defensive CD's. How fun would that be?
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

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    Gasp! It's like they want the healers to actually focus on healing!

    I understand the complaint, but DPSing as a healer is a bonus for making sure everyone is okay. Healers have so much support especially between SCH and AST that even if they aren't casting their DPS skills their support skills more than make up for it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Noitems View Post
    Gasp! It's like they want the healers to actually focus on healing!

    I understand the complaint, but DPSing as a healer is a bonus for making sure everyone is okay. Healers have so much support especially between SCH and AST that even if they aren't casting their DPS skills their support skills more than make up for it.
    Sorry but that would only be true if you know, content was actually hard, but it's not. If you enjoy spending 50% of a fight standing around doing nothing waiting for someone to take damage so that you can heal them then all the power to you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by 416to305 View Post
    Sorry but that would only be true if you know, content was actually hard, but it's not. If you enjoy spending 50% of a fight standing around doing nothing waiting for someone to take damage so that you can heal them then all the power to you.
    Hence being okay means not dead. No one is asking you to keep everyone kept at full the entire time, that would be a waste of MP. It's more so to bounce back when when your tank is eating a TB or everyone would die to a raidwide.

    Otherwise it's doing as much DPS as you can between your own offensive actions/support.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    SCH have effectively a dot and a filler spell for 74 levels.

    WHM is basically the same with Dia and Glare.
    Quote Originally Posted by Truen View Post
    Rip Miasma 2
    Rip Bane
    So do we get skills like that back after 74 levels or no?

    (At work, won't be able to watch videos or streams for many hours.)
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    Last edited by tinythinker; 05-29-2019 at 11:47 PM. Reason: errrrrrr
    Thanks for helping make the FFXIV community a fun and welcoming place. If you're not sure you have (and you very likely have), make it a point to be patient or helpful the next time you log in so that you can know you've made a difference.

    If you're on the Aether data center, congratulations! I might be your next exciting adventure healer in the Duty Finder. Please look forward to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by tinythinker View Post
    So do we get skills like that back after 74 levels or no?

    (At work, won't be able to watch videos or streams for many hours.)
    No. Bio turns into Biolysis which is an AMAZING 10 potency increase (heavy /s)

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    Last edited by Deceptus; 05-30-2019 at 12:47 AM.
    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Deceptus View Post
    No. Bio turns into Biolysis which is an AMAZING 10 potency increase (heavy /s)
































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    Thanks for helping make the FFXIV community a fun and welcoming place. If you're not sure you have (and you very likely have), make it a point to be patient or helpful the next time you log in so that you can know you've made a difference.

    If you're on the Aether data center, congratulations! I might be your next exciting adventure healer in the Duty Finder. Please look forward to it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noitems View Post
    Gasp! It's like they want the healers to actually focus on healing!
    Then get rid of every other job having a self heal so I can do the role I'm assigned.

    The Devs can't have it both ways. If they want healers to heal, make them heal. Stop giving other jobs tools for healers to have downtime with.
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    Veteran healers don't care if we need to heal, but right now we don't. We want interesting things to do during the downtime other than a 30s dot and a single filler spell that hasn't changed from lvl 4 to lvl 90.
    Dead DPS do no DPS. Raised DPS do 25/50% lower DPS. Do the mechanics and don't stand in bad stuff.
    Other games expect basic competence, FFXIV is pleasantly surprised by it. Other games have toxic elitism. FFXIV has toxic casualism.[/LIST]

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    Quote Originally Posted by Noitems View Post
    Gasp! It's like they want the healers to actually focus on healing!

    I understand the complaint, but DPSing as a healer is a bonus for making sure everyone is okay. Healers have so much support especially between SCH and AST that even if they aren't casting their DPS skills their support skills more than make up for it.
    Except the whole reason we keep having this seemingly endless debate is because content doesn't hit hard enough to warrant focusing on healing. If the damage scaling remains relatively where it's at with Stormblood, then if you aren't DPSing 70-90% of the time, you're literally doing nothing.
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    "Stand in the ashes of a trillion dead souls and ask the ghosts if honor matters."
    "The silence is your answer."


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