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  1. #5401
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    Quote Originally Posted by grinkdaboy View Post
    too bad. art is something that should be enjoyed by everybody
    Hence the "take permission" part?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mugear_bahamut View Post
    A vast majority of online artists disagree with you, sir. Moreover, unless you yourself are one, your point is moot.
    You'll find that their disagreement is fairly irrelevant to the realities of the situation, i.e. that by putting it in such a format they have no real recourse if someone chooses to re-share it, so it comes with the territory - and you'll also find that second statement is fallacious.

    Now if we're talking about putting it to commercial uses, then you might have a case, but it's clearly not the situation here.

    Btw, assuming you think like that, the viera in your signature is also being used with no permission, am I wrong? OP is certainly smarter than you than just use it for the first post without the artist's permission.
    I'm sure the artist is delighted to see his work all over the FFXIV forum.

    Again, there is no requirement to gain permission to share stuff freely available online - you just claimed many artists dislike it when that happens. The solution in that case is to lock stuff behind paywalls like Patreon or not put it in public venues like Twitter. Attribution to the artist is plainly visible in the sig.

    Now, if you're done with the attempt at a lecture...
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    Last edited by Lauront; 05-29-2019 at 06:05 AM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mugear_bahamut View Post
    And that arguement is valid why exactly? Does warning someone in the act such a bad thing? Or do you really just have hate pointed towards me, in contradiction to your previous claims? Hm?
    Even that "credit" is earned through permission, or do you just not have common sense?
    It's simply an odd claim to make at this point in the thread. I'm just questioning the timing of it. My view is that as long as the artist is credited, linking art here is perfectly acceptable so long as it isn't anything NSFW. Many artists adore being credited and having their work shared for exposure. Generally speaking anything uploaded online is going to run the risk of being shared. That's just the nature of the internet.

    As for 'hate', as I mentioned earlier in the thread I don't tend to bother expending the energy required to hate someone over internet disagreements! Apologies in advance if that is somehow disappointing to you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lauront View Post
    You'll find that their disagreement is fairly irrelevant to the realities of the situation, i.e. that by putting it in such a format they have no real recourse if someone chooses to re-share it, so it comes with the territory - and you'll also find that second statement is fallacious.

    Now if we're talking about putting it to commercial uses, then you might have a case, but it's clearly not the situation here.
    Spew what you want, it's not even a comment concerning you guys but seeing how triggered you are, you probably ain't gonna listen, so there's no point in conversing over it at this point.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mugear_bahamut View Post
    triggered
    Ah, yes. I was wondering when that particular argument would be made. If you're upset and seeing controversies where there are none, I would recommend taking the time to make a nice cup of tea. That's always a great way to cool off when the urge to throw false accusations at other posters arises.

    Please keep the thread civil. If you want to disagree with somebody, that is perfectly fine - though please try to do so in a constructive manner. I do not wish to see this thread locked.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Theodric View Post
    Ah, yes. I was wondering when that particular argument would be made. If you're upset and seeing controversies where there are none, I would recommend taking the time to make a nice cup of tea. That's always a great way to cool off when the urge to throw false accusations at other posters arises.

    Please keep the thread civil. If you want to disagree with somebody, that is perfectly fine - though please try to do so in a constructive manner.
    Telling me to cool off and denying you guys ain't even triggered?
    Ooh, scary taunts. smh
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    Maybe a nice mint tea would soothe the nerves. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mugear_bahamut View Post
    Telling me to cool off and denying you guys ain't even triggered?
    Ooh, scary taunts. smh
    It was merely a friendly suggestion. There's quite a few blends that I could recommend if you so desire. Fortnum & Mason have a particularly great range.

    Speaking of which, I wonder if Viera drink tea?
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    tea is basically leaf water so signs point to yes


    on topic:
    After playing with the benchmark quite a bit I hope that male viera would have the option for some signs pointing to harsh lives like notches in their ears or facial scars or give them the missing claws ;w; I made myself a boyish bunny to hold me over, but theres no real character creation options to make one look scruffier outside the soot facepaint.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rokke View Post
    tea is basically leaf water so signs point to yes


    on topic:
    After playing with the benchmark quite a bit I hope that male viera would have the option for some signs pointing to harsh lives like notches in their ears or facial scars or give them the missing claws ;w; I made myself a boyish bunny to hold me over, but theres no real character creation options to make one look scruffier outside the soot facepaint.
    I wish that as for special options, male viera will have the crystal thingie female viera have and I'd love to be able to choose color for that just like how we do for ears clasps (I think they're called that? The miqote silver earthingies) or maybe patches of fur (that you can toogle on and off) or maybe even claws
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