Male Viera as a playable character! show your support

[zeylos]

The only thing that matters is giving players more avenues to express themselves with a well rounded roster of body types and archetypes.
Like sure, Femroe are next to invisible to most players ... but we deserve to have been added as it gives the game a big af beefy woman for those who want that. Would we be more played if they went with a different model and different animations? Who knows, culturally this game's Player base leans hard on the cute for females so IDK. But we offer something to the game that needed filling.

Once the devs feel that a well rounded roster of body types and archetypes has been achieved there's far less reason to add more races as it needlessly adds stress to the dev team for the most expensive cosmetic to make and manage.

What you have stated is clearly the reason why SE should have only gone with 1 race, be it whichever it was. Males don't have a proper tall elegant option (elezen are giraffes, roes are not elegants, au ra is certainly not 'elegant', they're cool though, miqote is short, higlanders are not elegant at all, midlanders are short and lalafell is obviously not on the list) but the females did have something that, while not super elegant, was still much more elegant than males (femroe are like amazons in my eyes for instance). Then, the devs had 2 options: give both males and females what they have been asking for (an elegant body type given from a super popular race as viera) for both genders or give the fans what we feel they need to make this game's world more fantastic and creative and give them a full hrotgar for both genders. They chose only to do 1 gender. In fact, if we are going by filled niches, it would have made more sense to give us female hrotgar and male viera, since while there is male au ra and male roes as kinda bestial thing, for females there's only blue skin cat waifus, and then the other character has to be of the other gender, plus males have 0 elegance whatsoever (some might say midlander, but I don't really see them like that) while females, while not tall, have au ra, female miqo'te, and some say even femroe. All of the previous makes this more of a mistake than anything on my eyes, and all of those who want it should continue to push to have them for 6.0 and we will see when the dev team makes them

[reivaxe]

What you have stated is clearly the reason why SE should have only gone with 1 race

Should? They wanted to add in Viera for those fans who have been screaming for them and a beast race for fans who have been screaming for that. If the Viera add one thing to this game it's a 3rd chance to make a tall female given how under played the 2 tall females are and how vocal people have been in asking for Viera, a race of tall females. They missed that chance in favor of making a smoll, dainty, shy female with the Scaley race. That's at least something.

Like, what is with this obsession to convince people SE made a mistake picking both? It's over ... they did it. They knew the blow back they would get, they thought about it long and hard and decided this was best. They sacrificed Female Hrothgar to appease the fans because this seems like the last chance to add races (and they would be giving the Viera fans the middle finger for the 2nd and final time if they didn't) but it is what it is.

Males don't have a proper tall elegant option (elezen are giraffes)

Lol, Elezen don't count cause you say so? As Yoshi stated "what's the point of adding another tall handsome character if the only difference is their ears". You read that how ever you want, I don't have to defend him. Just pointing out something he said.

but the females did have something that, while not super elegant, was still much more elegant than males (femroe are like amazons in my eyes for instance).

As a max slider Femroe for years I can say that ... Femroe are just giant goofy af girls. Just like Roebros are giant goofy dudes, neither one comes across as bad ass warriors.

In terms of archetypes the best example of what I feel like we got (viera) vs what I feel like we would have gotten (Female Hrothgar) is Kill La Kill's Satsuki vs Ryuko. Stoic, Class Representative girl trope vs Delinquent, violent girl trope. Both are things not currently found in the roster but one's far more interesting and expressive than the other and it's a shame things turned out this way. But it is what it is.

I agree that there is a demand for them (I myself wanted a beastial female for a long time) but I am still curious on the numbers, especially now when they will probably only have like two hairstyles for each face. At least here and on reddit some already posted that they wanted to turn into Hrothgar but that the restrictions will turn them away again. So its really sad that stretching themselves thin on two half races and the other stuff might even decrease the number of players for that race. :/

The restriction is so severe/ strang and the set up is so odd that I can't help but think there's more to this then we know. Much like how Viera may get more on release I feel the same for Hrothgar.
We'll see in a few weeks though so it really doesn't matter rn to me.

[zeylos]

Snip.

Ok so first, ofc they already did it but we have all the right on this world to discuss whatever we want. Then, the viera are not a race of tall females they are a race of tall people with bunny ears. Then, SE gave a middle finger to many hrotgar fans and viera fans at the same time, those being not only those who want to play as the missing genders, btu also those who want to play as male hrotgar considering that they have extremely limited customization most likely caused by them not sticking to one race at a time.

Then, if male elezen count, then we have: female higlander, female roegadyn and female elezen. Also interesting how he said that 'what's the point on another handsome race' but had absolutely no issue in making beatiful females. Rather unfortunate to say the least.

Then, where in the world is femroe considered giant? Femroes are simply woman with lots of mussle.
A giant woman would be this (which is certainly not in the game):

which would have about the same mussle mass as the male roegadyn, something they can do with female hrotgar.
In all honesty, all the points Yoshida gave to the inclusion of this races made absolutely no sense in my eyes.
We don't want to make a beautiful race yet we make female supermodels with a face that was designed by a makeup artist and we give males no hairstyles and a reogadyn body while we give them some fur textures and leave them extremely unfinished for release. Makes lots of sense

-Oh, and let's not forget that the hrotgar look awfully human compared to the beast race from ArenaNet, a studio that actually did work hard for their beast race. Tell me hrotgar is bestial like this:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLAkBrp8kdo

[reivaxe]

Ok so first-

Hey there, "Snip"ing my post ends the convo as it hides my words and forces someone to do the leg work for you by tracking down my post.

So gn.

[zeylos]

Hey there, "Snip"ing my post ends the convo as it hides my words and forces someone to do the leg work for you by tracking down my post.

So gn.

I had to snip because if not the post was too large (over 3k characters) but gn I guess lol