Male Viera as a playable character! show your support

[Veis_Alveare]

If you get exhausted of it because it's said so often, then most likely there must be a point to it. The fact stands that they are yet another humanoid race when in fact as we all know the true intended race was Hrothgar.

Niche ? Sure, call it what you want. But it'll forever be a race done on the pure basis of fan service.

Also, I think you confuse a rough/wild look with rugged. One can look wild/otherwordly compared to the humanoids in game. A part from the ears, one would easily see just a another form of human.

Lots of people saying something doesn't make it any more correct.

Viera have existed in the lore of FF titles for years now, the choice to include them in XIV is based on that popularity and Fran as a fan favorite from XII.

You see a human with ears, we see a unique set of facial features, proportions and a personality conveyed through emotes that both appeals to us and isn't well represented within XIV without them.

[Allegor]

We really can't wish for something without bashing on something else, huh.

I feel for those who wanted male Viera, truly, but if I said, idk, we lost badass amazonian cat women in favor of generic nekomimi waifu #3*, I'd sound like a douche, right? now look at yourself in the mirror.

Hrothgar are here to stay and there's nothing anyone can do about it. Accept it, move on, and let's hope they add the missing genders later on.

*For the record, I love the Viera too

[VirusOnline]

Lots of people saying something doesn't make it any more correct.

Viera have existed in the lore of FF titles for years now, the choice to include them in XIV is based on that popularity and Fran as a fan favorite from XII.

You see a human with ears, we see a unique set of facial features, proportions and a personality conveyed through emotes that both appeals to us and isn't well represented within XIV without them.

Ah, but it's not about being correct. It's about the point of it all.
The choice to include them was based on the team's consideration of pleasing the fanbase, thus fanservice.

I am not against people who want to play female Viera, I myself support the race itself and the addition of mViera.
This is simply an opinion the state of female Viera. You see what you see. I see what I see. And the world goes on.

[LittleChickenNugget]

We really can't wish for something without bashing on something else, huh.

I feel for those who wanted male Viera, truly, but if I said, idk, we lost badass amazonian cat women in favor of generic nekomimi waifu #3*, I'd sound like a douche, right? now look at yourself in the mirror.

Hrothgar are here to stay and there's nothing anyone can do about it. Accept it, move on, and let's hope they add the missing genders later on.

*For the record, I love the Viera too

You're not gonna get through to some of them. Lets face it, the female Hrothy thread was only created to be "fair". The true colors of the fanatics really shine through on this thread with their constant harping of how the Hroth should have never even existed. I think, even limited, they look damn good and I look forward to seeing them just as much as I looking forward to playing Viera.

[Zeonx]

You're not gonna get through to some of them. Lets face it, the female Hrothy thread was only created to be "fair". The true colors of the fanatics really shine through on this thread with their constant harping of how the Hroth should have never even existed. I think, even limited, they look damn good and I look forward to seeing them just as much as I looking forward to playing Viera.

That's how I think of it, Viera already done in 12 so I know what to expect, though new race wondering what they are going to do as for story, I want to see more new races even if it doesn't match the counter part just so it opens up the story much more instead of getting 1 race and dry content.

Viera would of never existed even after those votes but people pushed that they were offered Viera but SE never said they would break character and gave them what they wanted but it isn't good enough but when is it good enough cause if they made it overweight, bald, hairy, too short, too tall, not good looking its never good enough always going to have some issues and those who keep asking get what they want then turns out they don't play it because the way SE released it then its just a character wasted when another character could of filled the slot with different lore and story which would be brand new.

to say it will look and be the same as Viera female is just not going to happen its up to SE how it will look even if its overweight or small nobody has ever seen a male Viera so they could put spin on it.

I see them as the male mithra of FFXI they said male Mithra stay at home to raise the children while the women formed the political and warrior classes.

sounds almost the same as FF12 the viera women were warriors the guys are home and only come when needed.

they are like couch potato's so forget muscular they aren't needed on battlefield they are stay at home fathers.


you have others who say it shouldn't follow the lore and some stuff can be broken, but this is their story and its the world of final fantasy and it also seems to tie in with other things, its like saying oh cloud shows up to the world but he doesn't wield his buster sword instead people want him to have black hair and wielding a crow bar with a eye patch and a hook for the other hand and demand it be done that lore shouldn't matter its what they want cause they pay.

i just want it to be left to SE to do the story, that's why we have so many great games they never had issues before making content everyone likes why change it, if it ain't broke don't fix it.

[Veis_Alveare]

Ah, but it's not about being correct. It's about the point of it all.
The choice to include them was based on the team's consideration of pleasing the fanbase, thus fanservice.

I am not against people who want to play female Viera, I myself support the race itself and the addition of mViera.
This is simply an opinion the state of female Viera. You see what you see. I see what I see. And the world goes on.

I don't believe that every decision the devs make at the behest of the players is fanservice. People complained at SB launch about SCH MP cost and SE fixed it in response but that isnt fansercvice. Fanservice carries a negative connotation about gratuitous and uncharacteristic sexual content. The classic "anime beach episode" style of content.

I don't think female Viera fall into this at all. Their racial gear is literally Fran's outfit from XII and while it's certainly very revealing it only shows a similar amount of skin to Miqote. There is no evidence that outside of that racial gear female Viera will be any more sexualized than any other race in the game.

I don't think you're against the addition of Viera I just think you're painting them in a really unflattering light without any real basis to do so. It isnt helping to quench the fire that's been lit between mViera and Hrothgar supporters so I thought I'd give my 2 cents on it is all.

[reivaxe]

I wish people would stop saying stuff like this. Hrothgar have proven to be quite popular. Go look at any of the 'Show Your <Insert Race Here>' threads and you'll see that most of the posts are of female characters. Yet that doesn't mean that male characters aren't popular - because they are. There's simply an unfortunate trend for female characters to be posted and praised more than male characters.

This. I mean hell ... Femroe are the least played anything in this game and I'm sure we account for more than 70% of the "Show your Roe" pic post. Tis the very nature of the the "post something and gosh over it" trend that leans heavily towards females for a clear reason.

People need to let go of this childish fight against Hrothgar where they basically root for the down fall of the first truly unique race introduced in this game just cause they didn't get what they wanted. If anything people should be rooting for them ... cause you know damn well you're not getting Viera bois (by like 7.0 at the earliest) without Hrothgar females at this point.

I really get exhausted of the 'humans with x ears' response. Viera have distinct noses, facial shapes, ears that are properly rooted better than some Miqo'te hairstyles, a body type we don't have in-game yet, aloof animation personality that suits the rabbit theme quite well, and a whole slew of other things. As much as I'd love an updated character creator across the board, pretending Viera aren't filling a new niche when they clearly are isn't going to get us anywhere closer..

Ehhh, as someone who has wanted Viera from the start the Viera we got don't add much of anything to this game. The only thing they truly add is the ability to make black females in this game. That by it's self is a huge plus for me being a black person but yeah ... that's it.

The ears look like clip-ons because they don't animate. they are far too stiff which is why I made mine short ... cause moving around with 2 foot long knives coming out of the top of your skull is a nope from me.
Persona wise they were given the reserved "Class Representative" anime girl trope treatment. They barely emote in the animations we have so it's not very impressive. Sure, no other race has that trope but it's not a terribly interesting trope to begin with and there are much more entertaining personas to bring to this game.

I'm glad we got em cause black girl magic and all but I can't help but wonder how amazing Female Hrothgar would be when I look at how impressive and expressive the males animation and looks are.

[Mugear_bahamut]

Al though some are now saying “hrothgar should of been added instead” I still disagree and I like how the females look, they don’t exactly look like 12’s but I still enjoy them and still want male viera, I found a picture on Twitter that’s pretty cool (I do wish for a tall and more dominant looking face) but I don’t mind if this is an option. Same for the fur patch it can hopefully be an option.

https://twitter.com/riesssene/status...816876032?s=21

This looks pretty neat. Although the coloration is a bit questionable since they live in forests rather than savannas. Duskwights don't apply to this logic so I don't know though.

[Rokke]

Both Rava and Veena have at least one row of grey skin tones, which is prolly where they got the base color from. LOVE their idea of the chest floof & claws

[VirusOnline]

I don't believe that every decision the devs make at the behest of the players is fanservice. People complained at SB launch about SCH MP cost and SE fixed it in response but that isnt fansercvice. Fanservice carries a negative connotation about gratuitous and uncharacteristic sexual content. The classic "anime beach episode" style of content.

I don't think female Viera fall into this at all. Their racial gear is literally Fran's outfit from XII and while it's certainly very revealing it only shows a similar amount of skin to Miqote. There is no evidence that outside of that racial gear female Viera will be any more sexualized than any other race in the game.

I don't think you're against the addition of Viera I just think you're painting them in a really unflattering light without any real basis to do so. It isnt helping to quench the fire that's been lit between mViera and Hrothgar supporters so I thought I'd give my 2 cents on it is all.

Fanservice doesn't always carry sexual connotations. And in this case fanservice alludes to the inclusion of female Viera for the sake of the fanbase. Also, I never stated anything about sexualization comparisons about female Viera. I don't have any issues about how people dress their character male or female. Hell I'm a half clothed Elezen male with a ponytail for crying out loud.

It is my opinion that they are unflattering to me. The basis is my opinion after having seen them in the threads and making several of my own.
Nothing will quell this debate upon mViera and fHrothgar, I'm just calmly stating my opinion here. SE did that to themselves and it's their problem to deal with.