Using autism and cancer in comments and as a derogatory term...

[Sated]

I usually mute/report people like that and move on.

Also tend to disregard the opinions of anyone who'd say it's something that's childish to be upset about.

[Eric_Riot]

I guess the point of this thread is "Awareness". If this thread can make one person stop and think before they type then it was worth it.

[Alucard135]

People complaining about a robot named Queen.
People complaining about not having both genders in both races.
People complaining about the height, hairstyle and appearance of races they still haven't completely seen.
People complaining about absolutely whatever reason.
And people complaining about a macro.

Welcome to the internet!

Now can we get 5.0 so people stop making useless threads, thanks.

It's getting worse by the day.

[SenorPatty]

It's getting worse by the day.

It'll keep getting worse until 5.0 hits. Stormblood's eve underwent the same thing. People complained just about anything they could, from things directly related to the game to things that were barely linked to the game.

Once ShB hits though, people will finally start complaining about the game mostly again. Expect the traditional "msq final boss is too hard" thread, followed by all the threads made by people who didn't keep up will PLLs about why everything's replaced with X, and just more general complaints about the dead horse that is Hrothgar/Viera's no opposite gender/lack of customization.

[JohnSpawnVFX]

Also tend to disregard the opinions of anyone who'd say it's something that's childish to be upset about.

I tend to do the same with the opinions of anyone who thinks indirect chat of other people with words that displease them is any of their business and worth making someone lose their account.
Tone/thought policing IS childish because it expresses a desire of the whole world changing to cater to the individual, rather than the individual adapting and compromising to the world.

Also it begs the question of what kind of individual finds it distasteful people referring to cancer or autism even if it's not in the context of directly insulting someone ("You're an autist" or "I hope you die with cancer"), yet will gladly call people who disagree with them "morons".

[Astarotha]

my problem with this style of tackling issues is it ultimately equates to hit and run tactics, the offending party could end up banned and not even know what just happened unless they happen to be on this thread prior to getting banhammered for making a joke or blowing off steam, i feel for what op has to deal with on a daily basis, but please step back a second and look at the situation without the personal attachment

the end result of this kind of hit and run curtailing is ultimately nobody will be able to say or do anything without being in constant fear of offending someone somewhere and losing their voice via authority and everybody ends up losing, instead of appealing to authority or mob justice can we simply just ask the other person to consider our situation and give context why its distressing? now this approach does have a double edge in that YOUR position may actually be the one that is unfeasible and you do have to reconsider your position, but at least there was a debate between the primary people involved and people might just come to a conclusion that makes one or even both sides better people rather than ending up with one side bitter and angry at you and a faceless third party now having power over you as well

for context look at certain laws that got passed to force certain moral viewpoints onto other people how much outrage happens when those same laws end up getting used against them by the people they sought to control when the social pendulum shifts (hell look at mccarthyism vs the current trend of depersoning people and youll see some scary similarities), but ultimately you have the right to be offended and they have the right to say things you disagree with, and the beauty of that system is its intended to FOSTER discussion and understanding, not be used to club the other person into submission or to cause the first reaction you come to to being bothered is to jump entire data centers to get away from a slang term (yes im aware private company not govt its not actually censorship but still stop and think would you want to play in a game or talk over discord where you could be randomly banned too for randomly offending someone somewhere in the world and you see how wierdly governmental these private companies have become)

[Doozer]

Not to diminish any of what OP is expressing, I get that there's only so much a person is willing to put up with, but the Xbox LIVE voice chat back in the day would blow your mind.

In some ways, I agree that the trendy vernacular this day and age can be...obnoxious to say the least, but it used to be a lot worse. In others...the thicker the skin, the higher you go. Reporting and ignoring it requires virtually no effort at all. Dwelling on it and getting on a soapbox expends more energy than you might prefer.

Just my $0.02.

I think the main issue isn't that people just think it's bad, it's that it's still bad. I fully experienced Xbox Live voice chat ages ago, and I'm shocked that people are still so vile now.

Report yes, ignore no. Set an example. You don't have to get into a fight, but when you see someone do or say something inexcusable, say something. Tell them it's inappropriate, reportable, whatever. Ignoring things lets them happen. People saying "get tough skin and ignore it" is why it still happens. Fighting back against negative behavior was never accomplished by ignoring it. And if everyone claims to have such tough skin, they're the ones that should be standing up against it, instead of being weak and silent.

I guess the point of this thread is "Awareness". If this thread can make one person stop and think before they type then it was worth it.

Exactly. This.

[Agaziel]

I think the main issue isn't that people just think it's bad, it's that it's still bad. I fully experienced Xbox Live voice chat ages ago, and I'm shocked that people are still so vile now.

Report yes, ignore no. Set an example. You don't have to get into a fight, but when you see someone do or say something inexcusable, say something. Tell them it's inappropriate, reportable, whatever. Ignoring things lets them happen. People saying "get tough skin and ignore it" is why it still happens. Fighting back against negative behavior was never accomplished by ignoring it. And if everyone claims to have such tough skin, they're the ones that should be standing up against it, instead of being weak and silent.



Exactly. This.

I agree with you.

[Melichoir]

Report yes, ignore no. Set an example. You don't have to get into a fight, but when you see someone do or say something inexcusable, say something. Tell them it's inappropriate, reportable, whatever. Ignoring things lets them happen. People saying "get tough skin and ignore it" is why it still happens. Fighting back against negative behavior was never accomplished by ignoring it. And if everyone claims to have such tough skin, they're the ones that should be standing up against it, instead of being weak and silent..

The issue that always arises in discussions regarding this is what I bolded in your comment. Who defines whats inappropriate or inexcusable? If it's a one on one interaction, I see no real reason that you cant ask others to talk with you in a fashion more your choosing. But in group or public dialogue, or among people who are bonding communally, who gets to say what is allowed or not. Should the public discourse be purposefully curbed to the least offensive denominator? Im not trying to get into the whole "It's free speech" debate, but rather there is an underlying idea that is more important: Just because you find it offensive doesnt mean it inherently is, nor does it mean that people must curtail their dialogue with one another for the sake of your sensibilities or that the speaker's intent is that of malice.

There is such a thing as being to sensitive, and (IMO) is becoming much more prevalent lately because people think that it is not acceptable to be offended in any regards, the intent of the speaker's be damned. It's a weird sense of entitlement that people think they can just travel through the world and never have to experience any discomfort, intended or not. When people say "Grow thicker skin," it's usually in reference to this very aspect. Stop being overly sensitive, particularly when the context is that of humor and being a bit 'edgy' and messing with taboos a touch. Get desensitized to things. It's not bad to be able to let things roll off your back like winter rain. It may be uncomfortable, sure, but its not going to kill you, and your time will be better spent going on your way rather than cursing at the heavens.

This doesnt mean you cant call out bad language or behavior. There is a line in the sand most people can agree to. Usually, being overtly and intentionally an ass to people, using slurs or what not purposefully to denigrate people, and the like is not widely accepted. Most people understand this. But telling jokes, dark humor, or even stepping into the territory of taboos for the sake of being edgy or explorative isnt wrong even if some people find it offensive. Intent matters, and its your duty to find out that intent. Dont be lazy and assume its all scummy shenanigans just because you personally find something distasteful.

[ScarboroughFairy]

I think the main issue isn't that people just think it's bad, it's that it's still bad. I fully experienced Xbox Live voice chat ages ago, and I'm shocked that people are still so vile now.

Report yes, ignore no. Set an example. You don't have to get into a fight, but when you see someone do or say something inexcusable, say something. Tell them it's inappropriate, reportable, whatever. Ignoring things lets them happen.

I agree with you only in the context of people using certain words or phrases to harass either yourself or another, only then could I see a third-party or GM intervention being necessary. That and someone using the obviously undesirable turns of phrase i.e. slurs/contemptuous epithets.

But if two people are having a conversation and they use the vernacular OP describes like "cancerous", "autistic", or even "retarded" and it's to refer to one particular thing and not a person, then it has absolutely nothing to do with me. If it's in the chat and those terms happen to bother you, then, like I said, report, ignore it, blacklist or, better yet, log out. Sure, speak up, you're well within your right. Maybe they'll agree to oblige your request, but on the off chance that they don't, consult the other options. I feel only when it's absolutely necessary (like in the examples I mentioned before, just to keep track) should we police each other's language, but aside from that, speak freely.