Last straw

[AdvancedWind]

I agree with NoctisUmbra i have gotten my wins on pgl my ls makes it work and we do well. Even with x4 arc it does not = win. Another problem i think most people have in this game they always have the filter on that shows when a mob readies an attack and the can't dodge then blame it on lag~

The fight is very doable without archers, no one denies that. But I also doubt anyone will deny that stacking archers makes it far easier, and therefore hurts those that don't have "access" to groups that will do it the "harder" way

[Rogue]

The fight is very doable without archers, no one denies that. But I also doubt anyone will deny that stacking archers makes it far easier, and therefore hurts those that don't have "access" to groups that will do it the "harder" way

thank god someone else said it lol

this is the ENTIRE point, if you see page 1 i made a long post describing this, what i said was that if the SE designed fights differently (in this case no high dmg circle AOE) people would be willing to take other jobs BUT the mob would still be getting hit the same as if there were 5-6 archers as it is designed right now.

noctis your argument about jobs are ballanced- being able to absorb damage isnt ballanced with being able to dodge all damage, the mages still have to cure you even if you arent one shotted.. if SE wants to keep circle AOE thats fine but have some attacks that also hit ranged characters.

the reason people stack archers is entirely down to development decisions.

[NoctisUmbra]

The fight is very doable without archers, no one denies that. But I also doubt anyone will deny that stacking archers makes it far easier, and therefore hurts those that don't have "access" to groups that will do it the "harder" way

Its not so much that it makes the fight easier, but rather ARC is the easiest DD to play in the instance.

Easiest =/= /most beneficial.
Easiest = safest.

[Rogue]

Its not so much that it makes the fight easier, but rather ARC is the easiest DD to play in the instance.

Easiest =/= /most beneficial.
Easiest = safest.

your talking in circles, it amounts to the same thing.

[NoctisUmbra]

your talking in circles, it amounts to the same thing.

What I'm saying is a good player behind a PGL/MRD is very likely going to be doing more damage and or being useful through stuns - which in turn would be beneficial for the fight. What I'm saying is there exist good reasons to pick DDs other than ARC.

What I'm also saying is that those other DDs aren't as easy to pick up and play after 1.20 as ARC is.

Then I am concluding that the reason ARC is being stacked so much is not due to it being OP or classes being unbalanced. It is rather due to ARC being easy to pick up. N00b-friendly.

Essentially, nothing wrong with the game design or the Moogle design atm. Master another DD and you would get better results than straight up going ARC.

Does that clarify things for you?