Last straw

[DeadRiser]

Then expect not to get invited.

People shouldn't have to accept your class just because you're too stubborn to adapt. Class changes aren't even a big deal in this game. It's one of it's biggest selling points.

And even then, you can make your own party or join a casual linkshell. There are ways around this.

No it's not being stubborn, it's going against the norm. Class stacking is a bullcrap excuse for trying to beat a primal fight, and I can't wait till they balance it. I'm tired of class stacking.

Yeah adapting to the situation is important, but adapting to class stacking is stupid.

[Gramul]

Class Stacking is stupid

In any other MMO, I'd agree.
But the fact that you can change classes on the fly makes it a pretty weak complaint to me. You're not bound to one class like with other MMO's.

Need to be an archer in this situation? Be an archer.
Situation calls for a tank? Be a Gladiator.
Need to heal your party? Go for Conjurer.

The only thing stopping you is yourself.

By the by, I hope this doesn't sour my position in Counter Post. I really am a good boy. Honest I am.

[Corrderio]

So basically you're saying you either play the flavor of the month or get left behind? Yeah, that's sure going to keep the playerbase happy.

[SnickleWhiskers]

I don't really enjoy the class stacking idea either but..... there's a game called World of Warcraft that's been out for awhile that makes any class viable for everything.

The only reason why i haven't raged at the way this games terrible balance is because if you're trying to be the best at your ability you'll end up getting other classes to 50.

[Isaveron]

The simple solution is to stop making encounters where the enemy uses large and damaging AOE abilities, because this will only lead to ranged units being preferred over melee. I do agree that the community is also to blame. For a community that sees itself better than WoW's and most other MMOs', they're no better with this path of least resistance mentality.

[Betelgeuzah]

I bet they could wave a sign with a Bard on it in front of your faces and you still wouldn't get the hint.

[yukikaze_yanagi]

I hate class stacking, it's the most retarded concept ever. It isn't a concept to "adapt", if i love a class i should'nt be forced by the community (because it's a our problem) to level the OP class just because the internet has spoken.
I always wait the day where SE forces us to bring every class.

[AdvancedWind]

In any other MMO, I'd agree.
But the fact that you can change classes on the fly makes it a pretty weak complaint to me. You're not bound to one class like with other MMO's.

Need to be an archer in this situation? Be an archer.
Situation calls for a tank? Be a Gladiator.
Need to heal your party? Go for Conjurer.

The only thing stopping you is yourself.

By the by, I hope this doesn't sour my position in Counter Post. I really am a good boy. Honest I am.

However, most of the time in other MMOs, outside of very specific fights and setups, you won't be rejected by 90% of the community because you aren't class X.

Sure, in FFXIV we can change classes, but what you're saying is simply: "Leveled X to cap only to discover no one does endgame on X? Too bad, level up Y or gtfo, we don't want lazy players" which is stupid. All classes should be equally viable on most endgame fights, then people with multiple classes should have an extra advantage due to that fact, instead of the current fights that does "enforce" cookie cutter stacking setups that the community will obviously jump on once discovered.

And no, just because PLing is rampant it doesn't give any excuses to this mentality and the developers should try to balance fights in a way that class stacking isn't so much more effective than everything else.

[Arland]

We have two groups for moogle in our LS, both without ARC tactic. One group has GLA, 2xMRD, 2xARC, 1xTHM, 2xCON, the other 2xGLA, 3xLNC(MRD/PUG sometimes), ARC, 2x CON. Both groups are successfull in beating the encounter. We keep getting questions like "No ARC onry, why? U shtupid?! Wery easy!" - Of course we know that, but we wan't to play what we want with tactics we forged for ourselves, some adjustments are made for sure but we refuse to stick with one setup just because it is branded "the best".

We did this with Ifrit and Oger/Batraal too. There are LS out there who won't force you to play a specific class, your just have to find them... I'm sure you'll find a LS fitting your playstyle! Maybe you should consider joining one of them instead of going with random groups.

[Raikki]

I don't understand. Since 1.18 people have been coming on here and complaining about how they can't get into pickup groups with their desired class. Why do you even want to join a pickup group? They're terrible. Make friends and join/make a linkshell to do this stuff with instead.