Regarding Hrothgar and Benchmark

[Renthas]

Called it then, laughing now. I was never a fan of Hrothgar, the fact their face/hair are tied shows them to be little more than mask wearing Rogadyne with tails and bad posture. Implementation of Aura didn't separate horns, so i see no reason to expect a change with Hrothgar. I will not continue to call the dev team lazy, however i will see this as further proof Hrothgar was a mistake. Sadly Male Viera were sacrificed for a race with limited customization.

"Male Viera were sacrificed for a race with limited customization"
I'm gonna refer you to Cidel's signature, can't sacrifice what you never had, or was never promised. :^)

This is rather disappointing, though. I wonder if we will have more options in the launch build.

[Halivel]

This is rather disappointing, though. I wonder if we will have more options in the launch build.

-*remembers how people hoped about au ra having sticked horns+faces only because it's benchmark and having more options on release-* .......doubtful, tbh. /sigh

[Renthas]

-*remembers how people hoped about au ra having sticked horns+faces only because it's benchmark and having more options on release-* .......doubtful, tbh. /sigh

I am doubtful as well. I will still roll a Hrothgar, though, as I've been wanting a beast race since day 1, and I love lions. Plus GNB's ability names...they really didn't just tack GNB onto Hrothgar's lore, they made it really really fitting.

[Halivel]

Plus GNB's ability names...they really didn't just tack GNB onto Hrothgar's lore, they made it really really fitting.

My eyes catched only "Rough divide", which is a first Squall's limit break. And well, Hrothgars as job creatures are ff8 reference, too, so not surprised about it at all.

[Renthas]

My eyes catched only "Rough divide", which is a first Squall's limit break. And well, Hrothgars as job creatures are ff8 reference, too, so not surprised about it at all.

GNB has abilities like Abdomen Tear, Eye Gouge, Jugular Rip, Heart of Stone, No Mercy, and Demon Slaughter. Those were the ones that stood out the most, regarding the connection to Hrothgar.

[Halivel]

GNB has abilities like Abdomen Tear, Eye Gouge, Jugular Rip, Heart of Stone, No Mercy, and Demon Slaughter. Those were the ones that stood out the most, regarding the connection to Hrothgar.

Well, I wouldn't really connect them with Hrothgars specifically, but they do represent the feel of Job, I think.

[Renthas]

Well, I wouldn't really connect them with Hrothgars specifically, but they do represent the feel of Job, I think.

They stood out to me because in the Hrothgar lore, when they first arrived, they were seen as wild and vicious until they learned to speak the common tongue, then were discovered to be very civilized. Works well too because of Hrothgar being the first beast race in the game, and the latter 3 because of Hrothgar being the origins of Gunbreakers and Gunbreakers are Queensguard. Their tank stance is also called "Royal Guard," which I really like, and paired with Demon Slaughter makes me think of Devil May Cry lol

[Alacran]

"Male Viera were sacrificed for a race with limited customization"
I'm gonna refer you to Cidel's signature, can't sacrifice what you never had, or was never promised. :^)

This is rather disappointing, though. I wonder if we will have more options in the launch build.

When one says race, the expectation is that both members of that race are represented. Official lore exist that expressly states that there are a male and female gender. Also, it has be stated in the the 3.0 lore panel that the WoL exist apart from lore restrictions. For example there is only one WoL but all players are the WoL the suspension of disbelief is needed to appreciate the story as it's presented.

While it is true Male Viera was never specifically promised to the player base, the out right intent of not saying it was not to be implemented is a lie of omission betraying known expectation.

As stated by Yoshi P himself, they made a beast race no one heard of to appease a portion of the player base, due to this being the possible last race brought to the game. Now, the half measure has failed and demand for the missing genders is at all time high. They have effectively doubled their work load unintentionally.

Hrothgar was a mistake in my opinion due to this half measure having the opposite effect of what they intended. Can you honestly say the limited options given in their customization was worth the wait? Even if you can defend it plenty of others are very disappointed with the face/hair lock. It even places a pale over the possibility of female Hrothgar, what limitations will they have?

I may feel the race it's self is a wretched joke of an offering, but players still deserve to have the option of Male and Female Hrothgar.