Regarding Hrothgar and Benchmark

[SoulEchelon]

I'm gonna highly suggest waiting until Shadowbringers is officially released before you pick up your torch and pitchforks. Yoshi-P himself stated the benchmark had a chance of not even being released this month. More than likely they wanted to release it alongside the live letter, and thus weren't able to get everything they wanted in. Immediately believing what we're seeing in a benchmark is the absolute final finished product is being blatantly ignorant. Now if Hrothgar were fully released with their current lack of options, THEN I'd agree with the disappointment. But until then I'm not going to kneejerk myself off a cliff.

[Senn]

Initially, I thought the decision to add female viera and male hrothgar was the best decision SE made. I believed it added the most variety, and it would make the most amount of people happy. I have always supported people who wanted a more beast-like race, and wished them luck. I have been very consistent in my openness for a beast race.

Since hrothgar's hairstyles might be locked to faces, I am not so sure about this decision anymore. This is just the benchmark, so I'll withhold judgement until we see more. I just wanted to say the chance that hrothgar hairstyles might be locked to their faces makes me feel like this race may not have been the best option. If it is truly the case, then I'm starting to feel like male viera would have been a better addition than hrothgar.

[Zanarkand-Ronso]

Know what, Il stay optimistic. Because even if we have limited Hairstyles, I'll bet they fitted enough Headgear that Ill find some good glamours to make up for it.

[MaethusXion]

I don't think they said more customization, I think they said their heads had unique features that prevented most headgear from working.

Could be another case of mis-remembering, but I'll check when I get access back to a computer. I remember it as a)unique head features they don't want blocked by headgear, b)they didn't want to model the hair stuffed under hats, and c)in exchange for doing this they were giving us more customization for these two races

What Broken Promise?

See below. Went back and edited my original post because I mis-remembered the entire housing systems as being separate between FC and Personal, not the PRICES were supposed to be different... short quoted below, can click the arrows to see Yoshi's entire post. And no, he doesn't specifically state "I promise" in there, but it is also a change that was part of the original outrage about the entire housing system being as messed up as it is and there was never any apology of the prices being so insanely high (for at the time)

Personal Housing
While I cannot give a specific date on when personal housing will be implemented, I can say that prices will be completely separate from free company housing, and, naturally, far more affordable.

EDIT I'm just gonna save myself the sanity I have remaining and go with what Iscah says two posts below. Hrothgar were revealed at Tokyo, and idr any Letters after Fanfest until the one we got today...

[Erendis]

I'm pretty sure hair will remain connected to face since number of options is limited and they added fur option (Can't count them now to make sure).

[Iscah]

We debated this a little while back, and someone provided the link to the livestream so I checked through it. They talked a lot about "unique" options and having lots of things to test, but never said there would be more options than any other race. People just interpreted it that way, and never went back to the source quote.

Unique options is entirely correct, just replacing rather than adding to the usual ones.


The arrangement of Hrothgar heads and hairstyles being linked is disappointing but not entirely surprising - I'd wondered how they would work with the normal hairstyles when they have such a different head shape.

It looks like they've put fur pattern into what would normally be the hairstyle choice slot? Is that right? That would be a lot of patterns.

(Viera might still just be getting worked on though. I'm not sure why they wouldn't get access to normal hairstyles.)

[Omegakiyohime]

I'm pretty sure hair will remain connected to face since number of options is limited and they added fur option (Can't count them now to make sure).

That's my line of thinking as well. The information for Fur/Fur pattern/highlights is being stored in the same place that hair/hair color/hair highlight information and save a rebuilding of the CC system/game engine, they can only work within a set format for character data. It's more or less why races have unique sliders/colorable features. They're all going into the same "bucket", but being read differently.

Which brings up the question, why waste that on a feature that will be rarely seen? Your chest and legs are rarely shown in armor for males. 90% of the armor in the game is going to cover it up.

[Nestama]

90% of the armor in the game is going to cover it up.

Surely there's a system in this game that will let us wear what we want and show off what would normally be hidden!
I get what you're saying, but the glamour system does exist.

I'm otherwise happy with how Hrothgar are currently, since (to me) hairstyle isn't really something I cared about (on my male Roe, he was bald). Hats were a massive concern, though. I like hats and I'm hoping one particular hat will be wearable.

[Iscah]

Which brings up the question, why waste that on a feature that will be rarely seen? Your chest and legs are rarely shown in armor for males. 90% of the armor in the game is going to cover it up.

Depends on your taste in glamour. The racial gear is clearly designed to show off their fur patterns.

Au Ra are already in a similar situation, with gear covering up their body scales - which just means you pick less-covering glamours.

They'll probably work well with things like the Coliseum gear or warrior relic gear (eg. Lv60).

[Corue]

Genderlocked races indicating a cut in a quality? Imagine my shock.