About the new items on mog station

[CraftOs]

Yeah that's one of the big problems of SE, they keep pushing the game down because things were too hard for a majority of players... Crafting got ruined in 4.x, you don't even need a pentameld or anything to 100% HQ with a macro... it's not related to what I complain here but it's still something stupid that they did... So end game gear is not a challenge anymore to get...

I 100% agree with you. But 70% of the player base does not agree, so crafting will not get hard ever again unless it’s requested once more (it won’t, don’t expect it to)

But from this point on, don’t expect anything to be exclusive, that seems to anger this community a lot. Would I like more exclusive stuff? Of course! But I have to wake up and realize that’s not how things work around here. What stays or what is gone from the game is ultimately up to the community. You have to understand that.

[Sarevok_Thordin]

It was exclusive for a very long time, now others get a shot at it and they have to pay for the outfit alone, they don't get the minion.

[Mansion]

I 100% agree with you. But 70% of the player base does not agree, so crafting will not get hard ever again unless it’s requested once more (it won’t, don’t expect it to)

Yeah, no, don't mix poor game design (crafting being RNG relying, makign it "hard") and players greed.
ARR mechanics have all more or less changed because they were getting clunky as the game developed. That's true for battle systems, crafting, glamour and so on.

[Reimmi]

Not very fair to people who come in later to the game but are massive fans of ff10
It was exclusive for years, it had it's time. Let some fresh blood have access to yunas gorgeous dress ^^

[CraftOs]

Yeah, no, don't mix poor game design (crafting being RNG relying, makign it "hard") and players greed.
ARR mechanics have all more or less changed because they were getting clunky as the game developed. That's true for battle systems, crafting, glamour and so on.

As a crafter who has crafted since 2.0, and understands crafting well, I can definitely say that Prudent Touch does make crafting less irritating, but that is precisely what makes it too easy. Honestly, keep Prudent Touch in, i would prefer a “Savage” crafting mode. Where, if you want superior gear and tools that allows you to HQ recipes easier, you have to HQ recipes that are untradeable. Hard recipes.

Basically, something that separates hardcore crafters from casual ones. That is just my opinion, that’s all. All I’m saying is that I get where the OP is coming from, and that she or he should not expect anything to be exclusive, I had to learn the hard way. I will not respond to negative comments. (I know how touchy of a subject Prudent Touch is for a lot of crafters that weren’t around during 2.0 - 3.0 crafting. So I need to point that out.)

[Mansion]

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Short reply here as we are getting out of topic, but I understand your point and I feel the same about various degrees of crafting. I don't think it boils down to Prudent Touch, but rather how much ressources and time they are willing to put in Crafting in general. We'll see the new direction with "high end crafting in Ishgard" soon anyway.
My point is : the game has opened. People complained that jobs were dumbed down, that normal difficulty is too easy. It's partially true but also player experience gets in the equation: we just get better at what we do regardless of the tools we have with each expansion. Because we understand the game more and more, and that applies to combat and crafting alike.

[AlliciaCapulet]

Not very fair to people who come in later to the game but are massive fans of ff10
It was exclusive for years, it had it's time. Let some fresh blood have access to yunas gorgeous dress ^^

I can understand that, but at the same time it's a bit frustrating to see some exclusive items becoming available. I also understand that SE will keep doing stuff like this, but I still think that exclusive items should stay exclusive ^^ Afterall they sold us something using this as an argument. I don't want to be mean to new players or anything, but when they sell you a product telling you that you get an exclusive item for buying it, well, in my head it means that you won't be able to get it by any other ways. I know, I still have the minions that are not sold, and I may look egoist telling this, but that's how I feel about what they just did... I also know it has been exclusives for 2 years, but for me exclusive is exclusive... I'm not really happy with their decision....

Am I surprised tho? not really, but I just really don't like it :/

[CorbinDallas]

Not to be that guy, but I don't ever remember them promising eternal exclusivity for something. Get over it. They set the precedent with various other "exclusives" in the past, to be so surprised is foolish.

[SerLuke]

Ya, nah.
That mentality is just greed.

Also people still have to pay for the outfit. It's not like they are getting it for free.

100% agreed, I’m happy FF10 fans will be able to get these outfits!

This just seems a bit silly I got the odder otter lamp from the plush and I wouldn’t care if that went on mogstation, I don’t need something to be exclusive to enjoy it, I’m happy more people get to enjoy things.

[savageink]

I remember after stormblood came out they did the falcon promotion and that even said that it was an exclusive but had a disclaimer that in the future it might be come available in the mog station. i wouldn't be surprised if that small print was on a lot of exclusives.