Summoners: Please give us actual summons to make us feel like a Summoner please.

[Shougun]

I'm pretty hopeful given the changes over time, certainly would be nice if this glamour system has some depth to it. Like FFXI earning summons you can go pilgrimage to unlock permanent upgrades to the lower tier egi so like demi-titan, demi-sephirot, demi-shiva, etc, etc. IMO In addition to that I'd like to see some system that encourages rotation/more summoning/summon interactions but something that'd have to be carefully mix in with the current system (or threaten to upset FFXIV hardcore summoner fans currently).

Many variations of the concept I've seen on the forums but something probably a bit less wild implement might be the dots taking theme after the primal out and other spells (like bio -> burn, miasma -> eruption, fester -> nail, etc). I think that's something that SE already has a lot of the resources made for and doesn't require some big redesign of the job, although when fighting a primal of the same type I think it would be good if your egi was forced to default to carby or some other egi (so you don't freak someone out with eruption appearing in an ifrit fight lol).

I'm quite glad they took feedback on summoner though- I was not so excited as it was before, before the demi-bahamut and all lol. Also happy we're finally past all the forum posts "but lore says no, we can never have something spify" moments, it was a sea of that being the major bulwark XD (which obviously didn't mean no in the end ).

I would love for more grandiose in appearance summons, like demi-bahamut, just have to keep them reasonable that you're not killing other players because they can't see the floor lol (I can see around demi-bahamut easily, he's a good sample size).

[Halivel]

Carby is small. He's asking for huge summons which is what SE doesn't want. With the code the way it is having actual summons WILL break this game.

Well, I am pretty okay with how summons looks actually. From playerbase side it's better to have something small so it will not stress video card especially when there are 100 Summoners running around. Though it's possible to change their model to "realistic" one but not too big for causing problems. Hovewer, if it's impossible, at least it will be good to have more models, since there are 15 Primals (if we don't count living forms like Lords/Dragons or Thordan) or 21 Trials (if we count everything that gives "Expansion" mount (horse/bird/dog)) but out of this amount we are stucked to 3 of them + Bahamut-egi which is just feels weird. Though people here quoted some interviews some probably we will finally get something in 5.0.

[FoxyAreku]

But we have a real summon.

It took multiple expansions, but we got one.

Won't object to more, though.

[MorbolvampireQueen6]

But we have a real summon.

It took multiple expansions, but we got one.

Won't object to more, though.

meha sadly its 1 if the 3 summons i hate 2

bahamut , alexander and titan i hate with a passion.

Baha because his over rated and honestly is kinda the worst in truth

alexander cuz holy robot is meha

and titan cuz his fat and rlly ugly 2 use

[MsQi]

I imagine it wouldn't be very difficult for them to just replace any instance of the word "Egi" with "Demi-Primal" and it'd probably work out fine.

So it's just about the name? Egis are pretty much "demi primals" and having you summon an actual primal during the part of the story when you are doing everything to stop that would make no sense. If the ongoing story supports it, which it seems to, then becoming more like their name sakes can be part of the Summoner story.

No they should not rewrite the past story but going forward makes sense.

[Jandor]

Hey, bigger and better summons might be coming!

The Summoner story so far:
50: Learn to summon tiny little version of primals, cap it all off with Enkindle.
60: Learn to channel the abilities of Bahamut, cap it all off with Deathflare.
70: Learn more links with pet, capping it all with a demi-Bahamut summon!

So where to go at 80? Why work backwards of course, apply that demi-summoning and primal channeling knowledge to your other summons. Demi-Ifrit coming in to wreck stuff while you throw out Infernal Nails.

[Seraphor]

A leak suggested we might get a Demi-Phoenix summon.

It was that collage of images tgat was posted right before Tokyo fanfest, which got a lot of stuff dead right.
Two things in it that werent shown however were a summoner with a phoenix behind it, and a machinist carrying a drill and a chainsaw.

[SerLuke]

There are lore reasons for this, summoning eikons is forbidden .

[SenorPatty]

I would so be down with the culling of aetherflow and turning the "trance" phases into primal phases, going between ifrit, garuda, and titan, each having unique models and abilities, ending with bahamut as the finisher and starting again
for soloing purposes just make them all share threat, since most o the dmg you do would be the pet in this case it shouldn't be hard to keep threat on the pet while soloing

This is pretty much my idea of smn as well. Plus when you end the trance successfully, each summon leaves it's stylized debuff (burn dot from ifrit, slow dot from titan, etc)

[Kazrah]

False the pet system and mechanics have not been fixed (it’s still a complete mess) hence why most real SMN mains want to do away with it and go to a Demi primal system like we have with bahamut.

When I mean "fixed", I mean that player inputs take priority over pet auto-attack actions rather than the other way around like it was before. That was the real issue with pets, and both (good) Summoner and Scholar mains could feel that change whenever they would issue pet commands resulting in comparatively far quicker responses.

If we can summon two pets at once I will quit the job all together, can you imagine twice the latent reactions...no thank you!!

Well there's your problem: your internet apparently sucks. If your Summoner troubles are based on latency, that's on you far more than it is on the game.