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  1. #131
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    Mixt's Avatar
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    Mixt Bell
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    As far as i am concerned, when you do something too someone else you are making an implicit statement that you believe that is a totally okay thing to do and you would be fine with it being done to you.

    So to all of you who force first timers to skip cutscenes or want to do so, i hope you have no problems with having any kind of media you enjoy ruined for you, like being forced to skip to the end of any movie you want to watch, or watch only the action scenes and be forced to read the transcript separately if you want the rest of the movie.

    Or you are reading a book and get forced to only read the last few pages, you are not allowed to enjoy the rest of it, skip right to the end, and if you want to go back and read the rest you have to read each chapter out of order in the most confusing way possible.

    Or have someone shouting spoilers at you and ruining your favorite franchises.

    You are totally okay with this being done to you, anything else would be an act of hypocrisy most foul on your part. And that is not acceptable.

    Unfortunate that this is unenforcable, i would love to inflict this on the people who ruined my experience the first time through.
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    Last edited by Mixt; 04-26-2019 at 04:45 AM.

  2. #132
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    hydralus's Avatar
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    Keiho Fukiku
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mixt View Post
    Or have someone shouting spoilers at you and ruining your favorite franchises.
    It can't be a very good franchise if spoilers are ruining it.
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  3. #133
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    Hazama999's Avatar
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    Momoida Jojoida
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    Those two instances are the only two in which, if there is at least one newbie in the party, I could not give less of a damn what the rest of the group thinks. I usually acquiesce to majority vote cause it is what it is at the end of the day, but these are pretty much the only two instances that nearly always have me going "oh, boo-f***ing-hoo..." whenever someone so much as starts bitching about a newbie or two watching cutscenes.

    I am so sorry for you. Jesus wept.
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  4. #134
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    SturmChurro's Avatar
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    Sturm Churro
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    I was playing with a newer friend of mine who got interested into starting the game again, when I was talking about getting back into it a bit before SB release. We did the shorter one and he didn't have too much of a problem with the cutscenes, but when we did the longer one even he was talking about how long they were, and that he just ended watching YouTube instead.
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  5. #135
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    Krotoan's Avatar
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    Krotoan Argaviel
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    Quote Originally Posted by hydralus View Post
    It can't be a very good franchise if spoilers are ruining it.

    WHAT?

    You mean to tell me you'd be just as interested in a series that relied on mystery if someone was constantly revealing important plot points before you'd gotten to them?


    Do you look at the last page of all the books you read?

    Quote Originally Posted by SturmChurro View Post
    I was playing with a newer friend of mine who got interested into starting the game again, when I was talking about getting back into it a bit before SB release. We did the shorter one and he didn't have too much of a problem with the cutscenes, but when we did the longer one even he was talking about how long they were, and that he just ended watching YouTube instead.

    Cool. Lots of other people enjoy the story though.
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  6. #136
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    Ahnohla Mujuuk
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    Do you look at the last page of all the books you read?
    I do sometimes, but I admit to being a little odd.
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  7. #137
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    Quote Originally Posted by savageink View Post
    which would probably lead to people booting new players until they got an appropriate match
    but how would they know who exactly? i had a sprout by my name well into stormblood
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  8. #138
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    Quote Originally Posted by grinkdaboy View Post
    but how would they know who exactly? i had a sprout by my name well into stormblood
    They'd likely kick anyone with a sprout just in case.
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  9. #139
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    Sentinel Smith
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    The fact that they didn't just redesign it as a single-player dungeon with NPCs fighting alongside you is amazing to me, considering what a tedious slog it is. Especially prae. It'd just be more pleasant for the people doing them, who could focus on the story, and then people wouldn't be tempted (with lots of tomestones) to do something they probably don't want to do. Especially prae.

    You can still technically skip the cutscenes, but it's really annoying and then you're "robbing" the fun of a 12 second boss fight from the new person. Despite the fact that the cutscenes are so overly long that I could get the final boss of Castrum to 10%ish before the cutscene finished.

    The best way to do it, then, is to fire up your favorite show, or a second game or something, and resign yourself to your fate. You want the prize for a hero, you gotta listen to Nero. For 87 minutes.
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  10. #140
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    Aryn Tatsuuchi
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    Quote Originally Posted by Xbob42 View Post
    The fact that they didn't just redesign it as a single-player dungeon with NPCs fighting alongside you is amazing to me, considering what a tedious slog it is. Especially prae. It'd just be more pleasant for the people doing them, who could focus on the story, and then people wouldn't be tempted (with lots of tomestones) to do something they probably don't want to do. Especially prae.

    You can still technically skip the cutscenes, but it's really annoying and then you're "robbing" the fun of a 12 second boss fight from the new person. Despite the fact that the cutscenes are so overly long that I could get the final boss of Castrum to 10%ish before the cutscene finished.

    The best way to do it, then, is to fire up your favorite show, or a second game or something, and resign yourself to your fate. You want the prize for a hero, you gotta listen to Nero. For 87 minutes.
    It's completely logical to me why did it this way, resources and time.

    It takes a whole lot less of those to just make cutscenes non skippable and Progress at a set rate than it would be to completely redo two eight-man dungeons to be solo duties.
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