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  1. #101
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    Krotoan's Avatar
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    Krotoan Argaviel
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanctify View Post
    Woah does that really work?? That's freaking genius. I might actually pick msq roulette back up if that's the case!
    1. That's an exploit and bannable
    2. The whole point of the roulette is so that people can experience the content without someone rushing through it.
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    WHERE IS THIS KETTLE EVERYONE KEEPS INTRODUCING ME TO?

  2. #102
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    RitsukoSonoda's Avatar
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    Ritsuko Sonoda
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    Makes me think people shouldn't run the content if they don't wanna wait through cutscenes.
    Or maybe they need to go back and do something about those particular duties because the way they are made has been causing problems with the player base since their original addition back in ARR. It's only 2 MSQ duties though out of the 2 Praetorium is the bigger offender as they put enough cutscenes in it to compete with end of chapter CS's that we get advisories about when turning in a step to an NPC. It's like asking people to help move a large object but then telling them they have to watch a 30 minute TV show episode then another once its through the door before moving it the rest of the way to where it needs to be.

    It's not an issue about it being an 8 man non trial duty but more of the issues of putting those long cutscenes into it. If they took out the CS's it would be a good template for a new duty type with 8 members ending out at a lower scaled trials type boss but not have these chained together in a story to be a tiered raid of sorts.
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  3. #103
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    Krotoan Argaviel
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    Quote Originally Posted by RitsukoSonoda View Post
    Or maybe they need to go back and do something about those particular duties because the way they are made has been causing problems with the player base since their original addition back in ARR. It's only 2 MSQ duties though out of the 2 Praetorium is the bigger offender as they put enough cutscenes in it to compete with end of chapter CS's that we get advisories about when turning in a step to an NPC. It's like asking people to help move a large object but then telling them they have to watch a 30 minute TV show episode then another once its through the door before moving it the rest of the way to where it needs to be.

    It's not an issue about it being an 8 man non trial duty but more of the issues of putting those long cutscenes into it. If they took out the CS's it would be a good template for a new duty type with 8 members ending out at a lower scaled trials type boss but not have these chained together in a story to be a tiered raid of sorts.

    They have already said they'll never put long cutscenes into a dungeon again. I wonder why people fight so vehemently for reworking content they can ignore?
    If you did it , you did it. You're done. You never really HAVE to do it again.
    If you want to do it again, you gotta watch the cutscenes. If you don't wanna watch the cutscenes, why do you want to do it again?
    If you are playing an alt, that's part of the grind to level, you likely have spent more time grinding.
    If you're running the roulette, you gotta watch the cutscenes, people need to get through the content and lots of them actually wanna watch the story.
    If you asked someone to help you move a large object, told them they had to watch the movie but promised a cheeseburger after they were done, they get to decide if the cheeseburger is worth it or not. They DON'T get to accept , and then demand a steak instead.
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    WHERE IS THIS KETTLE EVERYONE KEEPS INTRODUCING ME TO?

  4. #104
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    grinkdaboy's Avatar
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    Viktor Fontaine
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    they should at least make them skippable if everyone in the party has already completed those dungeons
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  5. #105
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    Avatre Drakone
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    Quote Originally Posted by Krotoan View Post
    They have already said they'll never put long cutscenes into a dungeon again. I wonder why people fight so vehemently for reworking content they can ignore?
    If you did it , you did it. You're done. You never really HAVE to do it again.
    If you want to do it again, you gotta watch the cutscenes. If you don't wanna watch the cutscenes, why do you want to do it again?
    If you are playing an alt, that's part of the grind to level, you likely have spent more time grinding.
    If you're running the roulette, you gotta watch the cutscenes, people need to get through the content and lots of them actually wanna watch the story.
    If you asked someone to help you move a large object, told them they had to watch the movie but promised a cheeseburger after they were done, they get to decide if the cheeseburger is worth it or not. They DON'T get to accept , and then demand a steak instead.
    Hey now, logic does not belong in any discussion regarding the two MSQ dungeons that are completely optional after the very first time you do them.
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  6. #106
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    savageink's Avatar
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    Dirk Gently
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    Quote Originally Posted by grinkdaboy View Post
    they should at least make them skippable if everyone in the party has already completed those dungeons
    which would probably lead to people booting new players until they got an appropriate match
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  7. #107
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    Sanctify Ofera
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    Are the CS skippable if theres no new players in the instance? Can I make a "msq roulette no bonus" pf and do it in a timely manner that way or no?
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  8. #108
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    Keiho Fukiku
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    I'm still a bit stunned that people are complaining about getting so much EXP for watching 27 minutes of cutscenes. Or, more likely watching something else.
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  9. #109
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    Enla's Avatar
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    Crushing Fatigue
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    Balmung
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    Scholar Lv 70
    Quote Originally Posted by Sanctify View Post
    Are the CS skippable if theres no new players in the instance? Can I make a "msq roulette no bonus" pf and do it in a timely manner that way or no?
    No. It is legit reportable if you're caught skipping and advertising it on the PF is a sure-fire way to get people to do it en-mass. This is all regardless of whether or not there is a newbie in the party or not.
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  10. #110
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    Cylestea's Avatar
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    Luna Shadowmoon
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    Leviathan
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    White Mage Lv 80
    I just watch videos on youtube when i run MSQ
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