Male Viera as a playable character! show your support

[Alleo]

This worries me, I won't lie. Look at their reasoning for adding male Hroths - they wanted to diversify the races, right? But what did the females get? Tol waifus with bunny ears. Elezen + Bunny ears. That doesn't do much for diversity, now does it?

So, did they decide that giving female Viera was more important than the aesthetic diversity among the females? If so, why not give us bunny boys instead of male Hroths for the same reason, seeing how chances are that they'd be much more played than male Hroths going by existing numbers (specifically male Roes)? And if that's not it and they truly did think female Viera brought something new to the table... 1. why wouldn't bunny boys? 2. ....really? Really?!

Yeah I honestly fear that too. Especially after the english lore about Hrotgar included the point that males look bestial...which can kinda hint that females would look different. I am already sad that female Au Ra look more human compared to their male counterparts and after knowing that Lakshmi was changed because Yoshida wanted something more younger...Please SE lets have at least one race where the females truly look fierce too (unlike the female Vieras..that are described as fierce but seemingly behave kinda cute too). And no this does not even mean that they have to be as buff as the males. I would be perfectly fine with them looking like female Ronsos.

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Also because I still see it from time to time why exactly are some people saying that we have enough slim races thus Viera should be muscular too? Lets see: AuRa, Highlander, Roes, Hrothgar..all of those are muscled. So with the new race we have four races that are muscled and three out of those are even large. Lalas are their own category with neither being slim nor do they have muscles. That still leaves Elezen, Midlander and Miqote. So even if we count all three of them as slim that makes it three races. Thus those that want muscled races already have more to choose from. So why do some still state that we need even more races like that? Another muscled race would just tip the balance even more thus Viera male kinda would fit more into the slim/large or slim /medium category since that would give each side four races. (And no just because you dont like any of the choices does not suddenly change that number) Heck we could even argue if the three races are truly counting as slim or not but that would only make it even more obvious that we have more than enough men with muscles in the game.

[Lauront]

Heck we could even argue if the three races are truly counting as slim or not but that would only make it even more obvious that we have more than enough men with muscles in the game.

Well it'd also be a pretty selective line of argument, intended to produce a specific result. Since I could also start nitpicking with the "big" races, since there's a pretty wide gulf between Au Ra and Highlanders on the one hand and Roegadyn and Hrothgar on the other.

I honestly don't expect them to be any bigger than male Au Ra, and probably somewhere between an Elezen and an Au Ra, maybe leaning more to one or the other - by the sounds of it, Elezen.

[Alleo]

Well it'd also be a pretty selective line of argument, intended to produce a specific result. Since I could also start nitpicking with the "big" races, since there's a pretty wide gulf between Au Ra and Highlanders on the one hand and Roegadyn and Hrothgar on the other.

I honestly don't expect them to be any bigger than male Au Ra, and probably somewhere between an Elezen and an Au Ra, maybe leaning more to one or the other - by the sounds of it, Elezen.

Of course and everyone has a different defintion anyways but I would dare to say that anyone that would not see Highlanders and the other three as muscular men would have a very specific taste. While one could at least still argue a bit more about the other three races. So in the end we have four muscular races and only three that could count as slim. So thats why I do wonder why some go around and say that a slim Viera (no matter the height) would be something that we have enough in the game.

Au Ra are ruined for some by the odd shape of their hips, which makes them look odd in quite a lot of glamour. Highlander men are plagued by a lack of eyebrows, which is off-putting to a lot of people. In addition, they suffer a real case of 'same face' since there's only really two specific faces that you see used. Roegadyn are too muscular and are built like refrigerators. Which is the exact same case with the Hrothgar - though they, at least, have the benefit of being the first 'bestial' playable race to compensate.

Muscular men are also quite popular. Adding a muscle slider serves as an excellent compromise, though from a realism perspective Viera men are going to be at least somewhat well-built by virtue of spending so much time jumping and running through their forest.

The thing is these are all your tastes. Heck they could introduce another muscular race and it still would not be for you. But that does not change the fact that just by looking at it for muscles alone, you will have more options in the game than those that want truly slim characters.

And yes muscular men might be popular but half of the existing races fall into the category right now with Hrothgar. Slim or jp popstar figures are also quite popular, and at least those dont have that many choices.

Of course a great muscle slider would be the best but I doubt that they would introduce one that would go from slim to quite muscular especially since the character itself would still need to look fine.

Also its somehow fine that female Hrothgar are in the minority and depending on how they reproduce might need to be constant pregnant because its a fantasy race yet somehow Viera men have to be buff because they are running and jumping through the forest? Why does the argument that they are a fantasy race not count there? Especially when the fierce warrior female Vieras who protect their homes are sexy waifus..(also the JP lore hints at the males just being nomadic)

@Lauront: But again that is personal taste. I would also say that Elezen have too long necks to be attractive or that midlanders are too bland. In the end those that want something with muscle can choose from at least four greatly muscled races and at least one more if you count Elezen with their slight muscle too.

[Berret_Snow]

Of course and everyone has a different defintion anyways but I would dare to say that anyone that would not see Highlanders and the other three as muscular men would have a very specific taste. While one could at least still argue a bit more about the other three races. So in the end we have four muscular races and only three that could count as slim. So thats why I do wonder why some go around and say that a slim Viera (no matter the height) would be something that we have enough in the game.



The thing is these are all your tastes. Heck they could introduce another muscular race and it still would be not for you. But that does not change the fact that just by looking at for muscles alone, you will have more options in the game than those that want truly slim characters.

And yes muscular men might be popular but half of the existing races fall into the category right now with Hrothgar. Slim or jp popstar figures are also quite popular, and at least those have the less choices.

Of course a big slider would be the best but I doubt that they would introduce one that would go from slim to quite muscular especially since the character itself would still need to look fine.

That would be me :P. I find all the other races way to thin for my liking, tried them and just no! All slim I say! :P I got excited when Au'ra where announced but when I tried them in the benchmark my first thought was:


Hence why all my characters are Roes since they seem very huggable. And why I'm excited for the Hrothgar. I just like my men to be pretty burly (Which is why I main a Kul'tiran guy in WoW, they are perfection!)

I see Male Viera to be a bit more muscled that Elezen to be honest, more athletic than super slim. Honestly the concept art they showed is basically how I always saw them.

[Lauront]

Hence why all my characters are Roes since they seem very huggable. And why I'm excited for the Hrothgar. I just like my men to be pretty burly (Which is why I main a Kul'tiran guy in WoW, they are perfection!)

I see Male Viera to be a bit more muscled that Elezen to be honest, more athletic than super slim. Honestly the concept art they showed is basically how I always saw them.

I liked that you essentially got a muscled dad bod with the Kul'tirans. You can do similar in TES:O, as well. It's pretty neat, just a shame that you can't do more with sliders in this game.

[Theodric]

Also because I still see it from time to time why exactly are some people saying that we have enough slim races thus Viera should be muscular too? Lets see: AuRa, Highlander, Roes, Hrothgar..all of those are muscled.

Au Ra are ruined for some by the odd shape of their hips, which makes them look odd in quite a lot of glamour. Highlander men are plagued by a lack of eyebrows, which is off-putting to a lot of people. In addition, they suffer a real case of 'same face' since there's only really two specific faces that you see used. Roegadyn are too muscular and are built like refrigerators. Which is the exact same case with the Hrothgar - though they, at least, have the benefit of being the first 'bestial' playable race to compensate.

Muscular men are also quite popular. Adding a muscle slider serves as an excellent compromise, though from a realism perspective Viera men are going to be at least somewhat well-built by virtue of spending so much time jumping and running through their forest.

[Higanzakura]

from a realism perspective Viera men are going to be at least somewhat well-built by virtue of spending so much time jumping and running through their forest.

I have always disliked this "realism" take on Viera men. I mean if you like buffy men and want male Viera to be that way sure, that's personal preferences. But it's silly to use "realism" as defense when we already have tribes of fierce Aura warrior women who look so dainty they would be blown away by the wind.

[Theodric]

Just because the development team were willing to turn Xaela and Raen women into generic 'waifu' types I don't see why male Viera have to suffer too. Two wrongs don't make a right, after all.