Male Viera as a playable character! show your support

[reivaxe]

I've seen little to indicate such an option is popular to the point that it comes second after Viera. Ultimately, the % of active, played characters Hrothgar end up comprising will speak volumes more about this. The devs are taking a slight gamble with it and it may or may not pay off. I still predict, if they add male Viera, they'll prove to be a popular pick like catmen.

You can believe the devs (who would know this type of thing) or not, I'm not gonna go find the tons of threads I've seen asking for Ronso or Lupin for you. I truely can't think of any race I've seen more requested than Viera and beast like races like the Lupin or Ronso.

As for anything "paying off" ... a race addition isn't going to be profitable. A new JOB pays off because it's content that can be played and keep people coming back to this pay to play game for more, it gives people something new to do. A few new dances or a fat cat mount on the mogstation are VERY profitable because they're not hard to make and sell to most of the fanbase regardless. In game events are profitable because they're content that get people coming back to the game and afterwards go to the Mog station. Adding a new race to the game likely will not result in the investment paying off in any meaningful financial way when you factor in the time and money and resources to not only design the race but also support it through all future gear and emotes and such. It's mainly to allow the player base to express themselves with a more rounded out visual line up. It's why they say this is likely all we're getting.

That being said I really don't think people who play males already would be as interested in "an other tall pretty male but with bunny ears" as you think. But that's beside the point really.

[Lauront]

I'm aware of such threads, but again we should be cautious to distinguish what comes up on the forum frequently with what the general playerbase would want to see. The same goes even for this topic, but if we're comparing like for like...

That being said I really don't think people who play males already would be as interested in "an other tall pretty male but with bunny ears" as you think. But that's beside the point really.

I mean, if you're going off forum requests, Viera males have by far surpassed any requests for beastmen. This thread alone has a huge amount of likes. In terms of any polling conducted, they beat them out. Even if you look at the %s of beastmen played in other MMOs, they tend to be a minority and this is even in such games where they're better designed and have a stronger lore presence.

I don't know why you think race additions can't be profitable, though. Firstly, in terms of fantasia purchases and secondly given that they may entice players who were on the fence but like the race design enough to now play, which is what I believe they're aiming at with Hrothgar. If they manage to captivate more players or attract the sort of players who are willing to invest in purchases for glamours for their characters (and this will include the Viera), I see no reason why it could not yield a return on investment. They're not running a charity, so what would be the point of adding a new race if not player retention and/or addition?

[BillyKaplan]

You can believe the devs (who would know this type of thing) or not, I'm not gonna go find the tons of threads I've seen asking for Ronso or Lupin for you. I truely can't think of any race I've seen more requested than Viera and beast like races like the Lupin or Ronso.

Here's a question, though. Did the people who asked for it thought it would be based on Roe? Because Lupin do not have that body type. I haven't seen images where Ronso are so bulky, either. So while the devs went along with the request for a more beastly race, they might've still missed the mark. Time will tell.

As for anything "paying off" ... a race addition isn't going to be profitable.

A race is Fantasia sales and glamour purchases and alt characters who means more game time, and possibly jump potions. Not to mention we've seen people who got into the game when they heard Viera were playable (whether or not they'll continue with the exclusion of male Viera is besides the point right now).
Jobs are lucrative in keeping player interest for sure but you can't say races aren't profitable.

That being said I really don't think people who play males already would be as interested in "an other tall pretty male but with bunny ears" as you think.

Most people in this thread have male character profiles, though?

[Theodric]

I'm quite glad we're getting Hrothgar. Cats are always a good thing, though there has definitely been demand for a bestial race. It just so happens that some posters on this forum have an unfortunate habit of stamping out certain demands and downplaying their weight and popularity in favour of pushing for more of what they want to see and already have in abundance. I want to see Viera men added at some point, though I'm perfectly fine with a different crowd being appeased for now. Those of us who like the proposed classically handsome aesthetics for Viera men are't exactly starved for alternative options at the moment.

[Lauront]

Most people in this thread have male character profiles, though?

Yeah, that one's like saying Viera females won't be popular with people already playing another lithe, pretty female race pick.

[MrKimper]

I'm quite glad we're getting Hrothgar. Cats are always a good thing, though there has definitely been demand for a bestial race. It just so happens that some posters on this forum have an unfortunate habit of stamping out certain demands and downplaying their weight and popularity in favour of pushing for more of what they want to see and already have in abundance. I want to see Viera men added at some point, though I'm perfectly fine with a different crowd being appeased for now. Those of us who like the proposed classically handsome aesthetics for Viera men are't exactly starved for alternative options at the moment.

You're having a bit of a giggle aren't you mate?

[Theodric]

You're having a bit of a giggle aren't you mate?

Not at all. Was there something in particular you wanted to point out?

[MrKimper]

Not at all. Was there something in particular you wanted to point out?

"some posters on this forum have an unfortunate habit of stamping out certain demands and downplaying their weight and popularity in favour of pushing for more of what they want to see"

That's a pretty funny sentence if I'm being honest with you considering you've spent a majority of the past few posts railing against anything that you don't consider "classically handsome."
I guess anyone who disagrees with or challenges your opinion must be some sort of free-thought hater huh? You make it sound like you've lived through an abusive relationship :P.

[Theodric]

"some posters on this forum have an unfortunate habit of stamping out certain demands and downplaying their weight and popularity in favour of pushing for more of what they want to see"

That's a pretty funny sentence if I'm being honest with you considering you've spent a majority of the past few posts railing against anything that you don't consider "classically handsome."
I guess anyone who disagrees with or challenges your opinion must be some sort of free-thought hater huh? You make it sound like you've lived through an abusive relationship :P.

I've only been firmly against anything that is genuinely and objectively unsettling. Furthermore, I've stated that I'm more than fine with Viera men being on the more bestial side of the spectrum. I'm not entirely certain why that keeps being left out of the debate in regards to my contributions to this thread, though I can hazard a few tentative guesses as to why that may be.

[Senn]

objectively unsettling.

lol
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