More 8 man dungeons?

[SkizzleAbernath]

Again no one said we want an 8 man dungeon cutscene roulette atmosphere like it is in the duty finder. It doesn't even need to be the final dungeon of the storyline that needs to have that much depths and even if it did we can get a tiny one in the beginning and get to see all when the dungeon is complete. Please stop searching for loopholes when there are none. The topic states that there are people who want more 8 man dungeon that will allows us to do more things together and if the que times are that bad try and set it up that it only needs 1 tank 1 healer and 6 dps? That can also be a thing if done right. The options are many. You can even add specific job restrictions to create something new maybe? Stop with the doomsday prophecies of what you've seen in past interview etc a change is always nice especially when we have had this rinse repeat formula for 4 years and accepted it like its the best thing on earth when its not.

[Dualgunner]

If it's not a raid that has loot, it's gonna get some unskippable cutscenes. That's been made apparent after that whole fiasco of msq. Nobody wants that happening a second, third or fourth time. In past Tokyo interviews over the last couple years, they've already stated they're not doing any more 8 man dungeons for MSQ related content. Doesn't make sense for dungeons since we already have the 4 man. Raid is 8 man with loot for DF. Trials have 8 man with loot. Alliance is 24 man, so that's out of the question. So it comes back to only one possibility, which is MSQ with no loot (which means unskippable cutscenes again).

It really doesn't mean unskippable cutscenes again. There's nothing inherent about an 8 man dungeon besides being a dungeon that takes 8 people to do, and even regarding story in dungeons (4 man dungeons used to have long cutscenes during them--Toto Rak took a while introducing its final boss as an example. "But you can skip that cutscene!" You've been on this forum since 2014, you know very well that MSQ was skippable at one point too) they've been largely relegated to pre- and post-dungeon.

EDIT: Also there are plenty of 8 man trials with no loot. There are even 4 man trials with no loot. But no, it's impossible for them to vary it up at all.

[Dyvid]

8-Man Dungeon = Unskippable Cutscene

[Kyuuen]

I wouldn't mind seeing a new 8 man dungeon or two. Just as long as it isn't buried in cut scenes like the main scenario. Though I think they'd have to make a new entry into DF for it if they were to even put it into the DF.

[Astrus]

I'm pretty indifferent about 8 man dungeons. What I'd like to see is 8 man raids that aren't just trials by a different name (having a handful of adds thrown in before the boss arena doesn't make it a raid).
While one might argue that those are the same thing I hold raids to a higher standard of difficulty than simple dungeons.

[Kurando]

If it's optional content then perhaps it could be something worth adding to the game, but it cannot be part of MSQ progression. Full parties allow room for more experimentation with duty challenges, as opposed to Light parties which are too small, and alliance parties which can be too difficult to coordinate everyone. So maybe it could be puzzle type dungeons where the party occasionally splits off in to light groups to help each other progress further and regroup for certain things, you know that kind of old school nostalgia that used to be common in previous titles. It could also be something like the Arsenal in Eureka, just on a smaller scale and more easily planned to run with others.

[Derio]

That’s a big no from me dawg

[Freyt]

I just want unique dungeons and I don't see that happening with the 4 man standard.


Things like parties splitting to get things done and such, going in separate directions, or activating panels at the same time to open doors, things like that.

[Violet_Galaxy]

I just want unique dungeons and I don't see that happening with the 4 man standard.


Things like parties splitting to get things done and such, going in separate directions, or activating panels at the same time to open doors, things like that.

I was going to say something really similar to this actually. It needs to serve a purpose mechanic wise within the dungeons in order to be interesting. Standard A to B dungeons? Goodness gracious, no.

[Noodle_Trinidad]

Do you know any other dungeons 4 man, 8 man raids, trials or any other content that has unskippables so far? Don't worry, I'll wait for your answer. I didn't think you'd come up with one. Take the L.

The original Aurum Vale, Cutter’s Cry and, correct if im mistaken on this one, Dzhaemel Stronghold were all 8 man dungeons that didn’t really have cutscenes. They were pretty much just full dungeons scaled for 8-man with CC even having your party to split up between areas.

More than certain they could bring those designs up to the modern 2.0+ battle system and get something of note, hell bring back the bonus chests for speedrunning, killing certain and/or enemies and the like back to make dungeon glamour acquisition easier.