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  1. #41
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    Quote Originally Posted by Freyt View Post
    I just want unique dungeons and I don't see that happening with the 4 man standard.


    Things like parties splitting to get things done and such, going in separate directions, or activating panels at the same time to open doors, things like that.
    This is actually interesting. If an 8-man dungeon was to automatically make two 4-man parties, this could be a thing. If there are no forced cut scenes, made to be optional, give an alternative way to gear up, have an min ilv requirement, and designed correctly; 8-man dungeons could very well be new content. They could at least try it, and see how the player reaction is.

    The way I see it is everyone starts up together, takes down some trash mobs and are forcibly split to engage their own set of trash mobs, and a mini boss that blocks further progression. The mini boss is basically just one mob with a high HP pool; nothing too threatening. The path splits are also random each time so neither group A or B will know exactly where they'll end up even when doing multiple runs, and on multiple splits. The paths would have to be balanced though, so big pulls would be out. We don't want to have one group waiting too long for the other. After the mini bosses, the two parties rendezvous for the actual boss which can be made to be more difficult. Two chests drop for each group similar to the three for alliance raids for each boss, and I say go ahead and put three bosses in these dungeons. Average clear time would need to be around 25-30 minutes.

    I'd say to try this content out by making it an optional quest with a small storyline and a nice little reward. They were willing to make a 4-man EX with Rathalos in the collaboration event, so I see no reason to not give this a go. If they did have 8-man content like this, I would love to do it. I would also do it repeatedly if needed to work towards a mount/emotes/glamours, all of those things we just love.
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    Quote Originally Posted by SkizzleAbernath View Post
    Pretty much as the topic says. There seems to be a huge desire for 8 man dungeons that are not raids. Something similar to the main story roulette but not a main story dungeon with long cutscenes if you know what i mean.
    Is there a reason for this not being a thing yet?
    It gives us the chance to help more people and take along more people from our FCs/friendslist/LS so more people can get xp and do things together.

    EDIT: Just to clarify since people are jumping to conclusions really fast, NO ONE WANTS LONG CUTSCNES THAT ARE UNSKIPPABLE. A cutscene in the beginning when you enter and one after the final boss is all thats needed.
    Can’t say I’ve ever met anyone who asks for 8-man dungeons. Harder 4-man dungeons? Yes. WoW’s Mythic+ system for 4-man dungeons? Frequently. But 8-man dungeons? Never seen anyone ever suggest that here, in-game, or on Reddit.

    Quote Originally Posted by SkizzleAbernath View Post
    I've come across many people that wants dungeons to be more 8 man. You can bring more people with you and you can do stuff in bigger groups. It does create a bigger social aspect and a bigger mass can get to enjoy things together. We are mashing buttons right now through the regular dungeons, it's not like that they are hard in the first place. 4 man dungeons are tiresome and most people don't even want to bare redo roulettes after the daily reward is given so why not figure out different ways to appeal to the mass?
    There’s nothing to guarantee that the 8-man dungeons wouldn’t also be giant facerolls.

    The most commonly suggested “different way to appeal to the masses” with regards to dungeons seems to be integrating a Mythic+ style system to the 4-man style dungeons.
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  3. #43
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    Quote Originally Posted by Freyt View Post
    I just want unique dungeons and I don't see that happening with the 4 man standard.


    Things like parties splitting to get things done and such, going in separate directions, or activating panels at the same time to open doors, things like that.
    This happens in BA, which has by far the best raid design since coil.
    I hope they have more things like this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by HyoMinPark View Post
    Can’t say I’ve ever met anyone who asks for 8-man dungeons. Harder 4-man dungeons? Yes. WoW’s Mythic+ system for 4-man dungeons? Frequently. But 8-man dungeons? Never seen anyone ever suggest that here, in-game, or on Reddit.



    There’s nothing to guarantee that the 8-man dungeons wouldn’t also be giant facerolls.

    The most commonly suggested “different way to appeal to the masses” with regards to dungeons seems to be integrating a Mythic+ style system to the 4-man style dungeons.
    I'm all for more difficulty in dungeon or actual hard mode version, maybe something akin to the level of Mythic dungeons in WoW, but I don't really care for the timed +affix system of Mythic+.

    And I'm not sure how the reward structure of the game would have to change if such a system were to be implemented. I kind of like it as it is already.
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  5. #45
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    Never heard of a "huge" demand for 8man dgn. A lot of different styled 4man or harder 4man for certain but never 8man anything.

    If anything, the 8man content I've seen people, myself included, clamoring for is a return to the style of early coil and early alexander. Basically big map styled 8man raid.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rein_eon_Osborne View Post
    Healing DRK is literally... the same since ShB. The reason why people think it's a meme to heal nowadays because DRK receives very little to no buff to their sustainability vs 3 other tanks getting something useful. If you're capable of healing DRK back in ShB (or any tanks), then you'll heal EW DRK just fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SkizzleAbernath View Post
    There seems to be a huge desire for 8 man dungeons that are not raids.
    What's the difference? Other than the name?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MistakeNot View Post
    What's the difference? Other than the name?
    Presumably difficulty and reward.
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    I'm always on board for more dungeons. Some variety would be nice, so having more players involved could make things different.
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    If done right 8-man dungeons could be pretty cool. Also on that same note I'd also like to see more harder 4-man content like the Rathalos trial.
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    Dangerous 8 man dungeons inspired by PotD and BA would be great !
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jirah View Post
    All I want is one expansion where they reanalyze the jobs and make massive adjustments to unhomogenize them. This is Final Fantasy 14 not Club penguin I dont wish for jobs that only have 5 buttons going for them or play exactly the same as 2/3 other jobs.
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    This current card system needs to be unwritten, destroyed and never returned.

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