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    Quote Originally Posted by Xebric View Post
    As far as justifying a male Viera becoming the Warrior of Light... I think it's fully reasonable. If Hydaelyn convinces the male Viera to quest out because the world (including his home) is in danger if he does not aid Hydaelyn, then it's feasible that a male Viera might venture forth to answer this call to put the needs of his home ahead of his own desire to "stay Viera" (A Viera that leaves their home is no longer considered "Viera" in the eyes of their people.) This exiled Vieran male would be ostracized by his people and would not be allowed into his (the Viera's) home because he's "not Viera". It would even be easy to code in since the same interaction would likely happen with all race / gender combinations someone could pick for their Warrior of Light - including female Viera. "Leave! You're not Viera!"

    I honestly don't see lore being an issue at all.
    I'd like to use this post as an example of what I really wanted all along.

    At the end of the day, I don't care what your political beliefs are. I have mine, you have yours, and this is a game. I'm not the first person to bring politics into this thread. I probably won't be the last. But at the end of the day, this is a game with a fantasy setting, its own worlds, and its own continuities. It has to make sense within itself. Why do you think series like The Lord of the Rings are so compelling? Worldbuilding. Worldbuilding is key. This quoted post is a great answer as to why male Viera could be playable without disrupting or disrespecting the worldbuilding the devs have already gone through. This is an answer that works, and Xebric should be proud. But to claim not having male Viera or female Hrothgar be playable is somehow homophobic or something? That's disrespectful toward the devs. That completely ignores what it means to build a world, or even to tell a story. That's why I have no respect whatsoever for that point of view.

    All I really ever wanted from this thread and the Hrothgar one is thoughts like this one and a civil debate as to why that could or could not work. The problem is too many people are either unable to do so or unwilling to do so, and often for very silly reasons.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ceallach View Post
    But to claim not having male Viera or female Hrothgar be playable is somehow homophobic or something? That's disrespectful toward the devs. That completely ignores what it means to build a world, or even to tell a story. That's why I have no respect whatsoever for that point of view.

    All I really ever wanted from this thread and the Hrothgar one is thoughts like this one and a civil debate as to why that could or could not work. The problem is too many people are either unable to do so or unwilling to do so, and often for very silly reasons.
    To be fair bud if you comb through this thread, you will find that there's extremely few that claim the exclusion of the fem Hroth and Male Viera is homophobic or sexist.
    Mostly everyone agree that they'd like the genderlock lifted in the future as a baseline in this thread.
    Yoshi said they'd review feedback.
    and thus people are giving feedback and sharing art and ideas.

    I see more people being outraged that people dare request stuff, than actual hostile claims towards the devs in this thread.

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