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    Love it how so many peopel who don't want male viera and female hrotgar are being extremely toxic while the ppl who actually want it aren't.
    Anyways, seems that everyone made like 7 repleisin this forums saying aww no we dotn need genderlock removal, yet my OP post which lots of u seem to sepise si the most liked one.
    Seems we ARE a majority ^^
    If you could avoid the toxic comments everyone would appreciate it, have a nice day!
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    Quote Originally Posted by zeylos View Post
    Love it how so many peopel who don't want male viera and female hrotgar are being extremely toxic while the ppl who actually want it aren't.
    Anyways, seems that everyone made like 7 repleisin this forums saying aww no we dotn need genderlock removal, yet my OP post which lots of u seem to sepise si the most liked one.
    Seems we ARE a majority ^^
    If you could avoid the toxic comments everyone would appreciate it, have a nice day!
    I will repeat:

    Yoshida has made several official announcements in interviews already:

    They might make the missing genders in the future, but they aren't promising anything. They aren't saying "no, we're not going to make them", but it takes a substantial amount of work resources, so they can't guarantee they'll be able to make them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kaedan View Post
    I will repeat:

    Yoshida has made several official announcements in interviews already:

    They might make the missing genders in the future, but they aren't promising anything. They aren't saying "no, we're not going to make them", but it takes a substantial amount of work resources, so they can't guarantee they'll be able to make them.
    They could indeed rework their ilevel system so they dont dumb excessive amounts of gear every patch. That would ease down the pain of the modelling team which has to go through it. Beside, thats why we get reskinned gear, I suppose. They are just hurting themselves by creating new gear over and over again.
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    Quote Originally Posted by xbahax92 View Post
    They could indeed rework their ilevel system so they dont dumb excessive amounts of gear every patch. That would ease down the pain of the modelling team which has to go through it. Beside, thats why we get reskinned gear, I suppose. They are just hurting themselves by creating new gear over and over again.
    They probably should rework the way how gear works on bodies. Instead of having different 3D files for different bodies (sometimes for three (six if count m/f separately) main body types, sometimes for every race separately) making one model wich will be flexible for adjusting depending on body parameters, if it's possible (and it will give possibilities for reworking character creating as well). But even if they theoretically can do it, it will means huge amount of work and it's worth to do together with graphic adjusting, which they don't plan to do in nearest future anyway.
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    Well since this thread has a handful of different topics being discussed, I guess I'll start with the OP. I don't suppose I have to point anyone to the existing male Viera and female Hrothgar threads, seeing as someone already did so on the 10th page or so (and them being repeatedly bumped on the 1st page). Based on how brief the actual OP's message is and making the assumption to be the voice on what the "majority" presumably wants- seems like just another opinionated person fishing for "likes" rather than inviting discussion...
    Quote Originally Posted by zeylos View Post
    Love it how so many peopel who don't want male viera and female hrotgar are being extremely toxic while the ppl who actually want it aren't.
    Anyways, seems that everyone made like 7 repleisin this forums saying aww no we dotn need genderlock removal, yet my OP post which lots of u seem to sepise si the most liked one.
    ...And thanks for removing all doubt! And additionally, people disagreeing with you or having an opposing opinion doesn't make them "toxic" by default. I know people like to drop that buzzword to attempt to instantly discredit opposition when they can't be bothered to try to hold a discussion with someone who doesn't agree with them. Sure, there's some snark and sarcasm abound, but let's not pretend both sides aren't flinging that around. But I guess I'll give you some credit for leaving the male Viera thread and possibly seeing other people with opposing views, though based on your brief posting history the bias is clear.

    Personally I'm not a fan of Viera nor the notion to insert them and they alone as the only playable race from Ivalice purely just to pander. Race-wise, I preferred the devs create whatever they had envisioned that they felt they needed/wanted, and when they revealed that female Hrothgar was dropped just to appease the constant nagging of people wanting Viera, it just left a bad taste. But it is what it is now...

    The male: Hrothgar and female: Viera situation is fine with me though. I understand why it is the way it is, and I sympathize with the devs in this instance for the tough call they had to make and what they have to put-up with as a result. Viera have always been represented by just their females and are what the "fans" are familiar with. The devs delivered in that regard. On the other side of the coin, as Yoshi already mentioned, the devs wanted to add something different of their own; and that would be with the Hrothgar, which arguably scratches the more "beastly" race itch other players were asking about. If the released Viera are female, the Hrothgar need to be male to balance that.

    It's fine to request/show your support for the female Hrothgar and male Viera, but the level of obnoxiousness and entitlement some people are exhibiting for it (especially during the 1st week) is causing me to develop some serious schadenfreude. No, I hope the devs don't delay the expansion/siphon resources from other outlets/ cause other customization projects to suffer/cut more corners just because a vocal minority of the male Viera fans don't care how, they want it now!
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    Last edited by Cidel; 04-03-2019 at 09:43 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by zeylos View Post
    Love it how so many peopel who don't want male viera and female hrotgar are being extremely toxic while the ppl who actually want it aren't.
    That's false. Mud has been flung from both sides, so let's not be deceptive about where the insults are coming from. On that note, simply expressing weariness and urging people to keep feedback in a single thread isn't at all a matter of being 'toxic'. I'd like to see the gender locks removed when the development team have the ability to do as much without damaging the rest of the game's planned updates. One of the worst things to do would be to rush them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zeylos View Post
    Love it how so many peopel who don't want male viera and female hrotgar are being extremely toxic while the ppl who actually want it aren't.
    Anyways, seems that everyone made like 7 repleisin this forums saying aww no we dotn need genderlock removal, yet my OP post which lots of u seem to sepise si the most liked one.
    Seems we ARE a majority ^^
    If you could avoid the toxic comments everyone would appreciate it, have a nice day!
    Between you and me....based on actually reading the replies to this thread....

    ...one of us doesn't know what the **** we're talking about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zeylos View Post
    Love it how so many peopel who don't want male viera and female hrotgar are being extremely toxic while the ppl who actually want it aren't.
    Anyways, seems that everyone made like 7 repleisin this forums saying aww no we dotn need genderlock removal, yet my OP post which lots of u seem to sepise si the most liked one.
    Seems we ARE a majority ^^
    If you could avoid the toxic comments everyone would appreciate it, have a nice day!
    People don't agree with me?? They must be toxic...

    Also, you're only 7 likes over the second most liked comment that is against your post.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alucard135 View Post
    People don't agree with me?? They must be toxic...

    Also, you're only 7 likes over the second most liked comment that is against your post.
    I don't know how having a discussion and being in disagreement with someone can be "toxic". I apologize this is not a hug box thing, people have different opinions and if you don't like them... welp, may as well don't join or start a discussion. But here we are, OP being passive aggressive.

    Heck, I even remember in Pagos, people were arguing about something and there was a dude calling that "toxic". I really don't know what they define as "toxic" anymore. They just throw the stone and run away.
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    Quote Originally Posted by zeylos View Post
    Love it how so many peopel who don't want male viera and female hrotgar are being extremely toxic while the ppl who actually want it aren't.
    Anyways, seems that everyone made like 7 repleisin this forums saying aww no we dotn need genderlock removal, yet my OP post which lots of u seem to sepise si the most liked one.
    Seems we ARE a majority ^^
    If you could avoid the toxic comments everyone would appreciate it, have a nice day!
    I don't want to step on your Toe, but as far as i saw it over the last Week, the Pro male Viera - female Hrothgar People are more offensive and/or toxic than the People who are against it... not everybody, but a great part of them.
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    Last edited by Valor_C; 04-03-2019 at 05:06 AM.

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