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    Thelind Fates
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    Quote Originally Posted by whiskeybravo View Post
    Made up words mean nothing. Gooblygobidtydibitydash

    But if someone uses a word that doesn't appear to be rubbish, such as "Genderlock", in order to interpret this word we have to break it down to individual components and see what those might mean. "Lock" implies that access is being restricted. That is why you "lock" something.

    A more appropriate term would be "gender options". "Dear SE, are you able to introduce optional genders for Viera and Hrothgar?" sounds a lot better "It's getting quite annoying to have to wait so much for you to say that we will get genderlock lifted"
    People call it a "genderlocked" race because the race itself is locked to one gender. So, when people shorten it to talking about "the genderlock", that's what they're usually talking about.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thefates View Post
    People call it a "genderlocked" race because the race itself is locked to one gender. So, when people shorten it to talking about "the genderlock", that's what they're usually talking about.
    That's fine for people in the circle with which these things are discussed. For people outside of that circle, you'd like to form a proper idea inside their head, which is why language is very important. Again, instead of respectively asking SE to create something that the community desires, it's insultingly framed as "Remove the genderlock".
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    Colette Aerias
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    I have not found a single person complaining about this in game. Not one. I've seen a couple people allude to the 'issue' in the form of a joke.

    A majority of the playerbase, you say. Ell Oh Ell. You mean a majority of the whiny forum goers. Even that's a dubious claim at best.
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  4. 04-03-2019 06:02 AM
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    Viera is locked to the gender female only.

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    Why are we suddenly redefining a word that's been used to describe races with only one playable gender since 1.0? is this advanced trolling?
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    Vari Myste
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    Famfrit
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrKimper View Post
    Why are we suddenly redefining a word that's been used to describe races with only one playable gender since 1.0? is this advanced trolling?
    Just a common derailing tactic.

    Though there's not a lot to discuss when the topic is really just "hey, a lot of us would like to play this, please add it". Keeping it visible though, I guess.
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    Mumuki Muki
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrKimper View Post
    Why are we suddenly redefining a word that's been used to describe races with only one playable gender since 1.0? is this advanced trolling?
    I mean, it has suddenly become much more relevant and is kind of a misnomer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by MrKimper View Post
    Why are we suddenly redefining a word that's been used to describe races with only one playable gender since 1.0? is this advanced trolling?
    Probably because those genders existed but just weren't playable.

    Male Viera and Female Ronso LITERALLY do not exist, they do not have a model, they will not be in Shadowbringer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wynn_Storm View Post
    LITERALLY do not exist, they do not have a model
    The two are not one and the same. They obviously exist in the lore and have been acknowledged by the developers of various FF games. And female Ronsos were shown in the game they're from, weren't they?
    And to be fair, we also don't know if male Viera don't have a model. We know they were considered alongside Au Ra for HW and have a concept art, we don't know that that process didn't involve a model, just that if it did, we haven't seen it.

    they will not be in Shadowbringer.
    Not at launch at least, but in general? Remains to be seen.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wynn_Storm View Post
    Probably because those genders existed but just weren't playable.

    Male Viera and Female Ronso LITERALLY do not exist, they do not have a model, they will not be in Shadowbringer.
    Male miqote had no models whatsoever in 1.0. They were still genderlocked. These terms aren't new... I don't get why they're confusing people all of a sudden.
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