Male Viera as a playable character! show your support

[Acesfool]

We should have Male Viera and Female Ronso. One of the reasons I joined this game over any other MMO last year was because no genderlocked races. That was a complete disqualifying factor for other MMOs in my search and here a year later they implement it. It's really disappointing and makes me seriously consider the option of other MMOs which sucks... I love this game but this is very discouraging.

As I've pointed out before, if you're willing to stop playing because of genderlocked races then you never really liked the game in the first place.

[NegiBozu203]

Wanted to leave a comment in this amazing thread, as well as a like!

I was so excited at the idea of male Viera. As someone feeling burnt out a bit on the game, especially after Stormblood, the Viera race was the one thing I was looking forward to to keep my enjoyment of the game going and fresh because I would ABSOLUTELY switch to a male Viera.

I was extremely disappointed after the hype of the US FanFest to see only females in Paris, and even more upset to see we wouldn't be seeing them at all this expansion. My hopes were crushed and it is severely hindering my want to commit more time to the game. I'll still be around for 5.0, but who knows after that...

And it totally isn't fair to cut the female Hrothgar just so people can have Viera. You gave people two half races in hope of pleasing people wanting half of one.

[Quipsy]

Hi everybody. I'm pretty shy but also decided to come into the forums to show my support. Though I haven't been playing this game the longest I've wondered about male Viera since I played XII way back when and was excited to finally see and play them. (I'm a girl who prefers playing dudes because when I played WoW many years ago I had some fairly traumatic experiences playing an elf lass.) The loss of male viera isn't just the loss of "bunny boys" but the loss of a new body niche being filled, the loss of new and interesting emotes, and the loss of hundreds if not thousands of fun and clever rabbit names that would have given everyone a chuckle. I'm from famfrit where actual serious RP isn't very prominent and things are very... wacky a lot of the time. Adding wascally wabbits along with the bevvy of Lola Bunnies-to-be to the mix would add a lot of flavor to that! (Same goes for the Thundercats. More variety's always more fun!) This isn't demanding that the devs drop everything and work on these things right this second, I'm well aware that things like this take time. I think everyone knows this and everyone can wait patiently as long as we know that eventually we'll get our chance, and that they know that there is an audience out there that wants this and is willing to drop mad dough on fantasia to get the look they want.

My personal idea about dude viera is that they'd be "in between midlander and highlander--tall, but not gangly, lean and muscular but not overbuilt--kind of like Solid Snake, but taller? A fiercer body type that both gentle and more severe features would not look out of place on." Tall and strong dudes that can either be cute or have elezen levels of "get out of my house plebeian" face if they so desire. That's what the concept art looked like, to me, but I'd be fine if with anything at this point as long as they have... you know... regular necks.

Anyhow, I've been wearing the GS ears (and claws!) to make do in the meantime. I hope that one day we'll get the real deal!

[NegiBozu203]

As I've pointed out before, if you're willing to stop playing because of genderlocked races then you never really liked the game in the first place.

This is an incredibly unfair point.

Some people just get burnt out of the game. I've been playing since beta of 1.0 and am finally feeling fatigued at the repeated content. Male Viera was the one possibility I was looking forward to this entire upcoming expansion, and now we have no idea if we're getting it.

I love this game, and I've spent many hours over the years into it, raiding and spending time with friends, and making amazing memories. Just because after 9 long years I was hoping for new content I was interested in to be implemented, and then that didn't happen making me significantly less interested in the upcoming expansion, doesn't mean the time I've already dedicated means any less.

The people claiming to quit aren't doing so just because they aren't getting male Viera. They're quitting for a number of other issues and this one just happened to be the one to break the dhamel's back.

[VyelChuChu]

As I've pointed out before, if you're willing to stop playing because of genderlocked races then you never really liked the game in the first place.

Aces, you're coming off as pretty presumptuous. As if you're assuming you know how a lot of stranger's minds work - which is not a realistic way to think. Instead, think about all the different types of people you know and how many different opinions, interests and personalities they have!

Wouldn't it stand to reason then, that not having the freedom of gender choices, could be a pretty big deal for someone? In the very least it's a very good reason for plenty of groups of people to feel uncomfortable playing now! Uncomfortable enough that they wouldn't want to support a company that has implemented something they do not agree with or hurts them.

[Burningskull]

As I've pointed out before, if you're willing to stop playing because of genderlocked races then you never really liked the game in the first place.

So... If SE suddenly put a trial in the mogstation and people left the game in protest then they never really liked the game?

[silentwindfr]

As I've pointed out before, if you're willing to stop playing because of genderlocked races then you never really liked the game in the first place.

and time to time, because you like something you need to be critic with it and point out the trouble, with your mindset, the V2 will have never existed, since some people was enjoying the game... since you complain means you don't like the game, strangely i did loved the game enough for be critic with it and get my legacy.

the point about genderlock it's something that was asked to us and we did say we didn't like this... and today the reason for it is because they had no reference and was needing to imagine it. but at the same time they was wanting to add a bulky race... i guess.
because the hrothgar we do get have nothing close of the ronso of FF10, i'm surprise that no one did point this out. the hrothgar are bulky where the ronso was spearman warrior not big barbarian warrior like we do get here....

ronso from FF10

a proud and muscular warrior.

hrothgar from ff14

exept the fact that the two have lion head....they have nothing in commons... they don't stand proud and are more bulky and have normal feet... not even claws on feet...

[Acesfool]

They still want our money tho.
Genderlocking is extremely unpopular by default.

Says who? The majority of people I've seen discuss it in game and in youtube videos couldn't care less either way.

In other games classes are gender locked because apparently guys can't heal.

Are those games successful?

Imagine if Dancer was a female only class and they introduce a bs explanation "the dance academy doesn't accept men :/" would you still defend it?

Defend it? Probably not. Care enough about it to start petitions and threaten to quit playing? Absolutely not.

The explanation for no male viera got changed from "lore" to "resources" because lore didn't hold ground when male keepers are playable.
Resources? Why do they create a separate fat model for miqo that also needs adjustments for clothes, bodies, faces, etc? Why do they add Hrothgar - another manly Buff and Tall race - and female viera - another cutesy race.

Lore was always a bad excuse because they own the lore and can, and have, change it however they want.

I had more respect if they had added cutesy bunny boys and tough lion ladies because then it'd be a reversal of gender expectations but the dimorphism we're seeing here are WoW levels of bad.

That sounds an awful lot like an anti gender norms agenda. And I'd laugh my ass off if SE suddenly became WoW bad. Because people think they're upset now, but just imagine how bad things could be by looking at WoW. You want to see developers who have lost touch, ignore and actually insult their fan base? Look at WoW. Comparing this situation to the dumpster fire that WoW has become is ridiculous. By the way, WoW's demise can be directly traced back to when they began giving in to the very vocal minority.

The bottom line is I'm thankful SE is putting out a new expansion and that they're willing to try something different. I may or may not change to one of the new races when they come out. Depends on my mood at the time. I really, really hope they don't cave on this issue. But if they do I hope it isn't at the expense of some of the more serious changes the game could use. Either way the sun will still rise the following day.

[Empress]

Lol like this game can get to WOW levels of bad. Theres a reason why its called Activision Blizzard. Does anyone even follow Game News? Do you guys not have phones? Lmao

[Acesfool]

and time to time, because you like something you need to be critic with it and point out the trouble, with your mindset, the V2 will have never existed, since some people was enjoying the game... since you complain means you don't like the game, strangely i did loved the game enough for be critic with it and get my legacy.

the point about genderlock it's something that was asked to us and we did say we didn't like this... and today the reason for it is because they had no reference and was needing to imagine it. but at the same time they was wanting to add a bulky race... i guess.
because the hrothgar we do get have nothing close of the ronso of FF10, i'm surprise that no one did point this out. the hrothgar are bulky where the ronso was spearman warrior not big barbarian warrior like we do get here....

ronso from FF10

a proud and muscular warrior.

hrothgar from ff14

exept the fact that the two have lion head....they have nothing in commons... they don't stand proud and are more bulky and have normal feet... not even claws on feet...

If you insist on taking everything out of context then I guess you have a point. Besides glamours there is nothing you can't do in the game because of the gender of a race. If you'd quit playing a game with this much content just because a new race is female only then you don't really like the game to begin with.