Male Viera as a playable character! show your support

[Hikelos]

I know none of you will be swayed by this, but in the case of Viera, the XIV team won't just lock in a design for Male Viera when they were never even shown in any of the Ivalice games.
It's just not their creature to design and they will most definitely never do it by themselves.
Besides, this concept of "tiny androgynous little bunny boys" I keep seeing is really creepy . Keep that stuff in your FC House please.

Female Hrothgar is perfectly feasible, but there's much more urgency to the fact that they're just Roegadyn, and nothing about them is up to the usual standard of quality of the game.
Even the heads, you can see the seam where the muzzle meets the Roe face, as if it was glued on. It's a really pitiful job and the end result is goofy lumbering hairy Miqo'te.

"More is better" is just not true.
Keeping your worldbuilding intact, and keeping the identity of races and characters intact, is much more important than having one more skin for your character.
Too much of anything, even choice, is more often than not a really bad thing, other current MMOs which I won't name are living (although not for long) proof of that.
You need the right amount.

On a side note, I'm seeing a concerning amount of people wiriting things like "I don't care about this, but I do care about [insert political agenda] . I mean, it's the current year everybody!".
One person wrote "Sexual dimorphism doesn't real".
Please keep that stuff out of here.
This is a videogame. Be nice.

[BillyKaplan]

I know none of you will be swayed by this, but in the case of Viera, the XIV team won't just lock in a design for Male Viera when they were never even shown in any of the Ivalice games.

Lock in a design? Races throughout the FF franchise kept certain distinguishing features but they can hardly look like themselves across games. Even the races we have here that are based on XI races or what not have their differences. Moogles have varying differences depending on the game they're in, with the most extreme example I can think of is the Ivalice Moogles.
Another game could well introduce their own take on male Viera and the sky won't fall.

Keeping your worldbuilding intact, and keeping the identity of races and characters intact, is much more important than having one more skin for your character.

World building that breaks apart if you have two playable WHMs in a party, or SCHs, or BLMs, or---- oh and this one's a male Keeper of the Moon, standing next to a Duskwight Elezen, well that's just not right--

If they were really adamant about the lore, this would've been a single player game.

[Hikelos]

World building that breaks apart if you have two playable WHMs in a party, or SCHs, or BLMs, or---- oh and this one's a male Keeper of the Moon, standing next to a Duskwight Elezen, well that's just not right--

If they were really adamant about the lore, this would've been a single player game.

When it comes to lore and story XIV functions as a single player game. I see your character is 70, so unless you're the kind of person that skips all dialogue and cutscenes you know this as well.
There's no 2 WoLs in the story, there's you as the WoL and occasionally your anonymous "elite force", which is usually involved in side content not pertinent to the MSQ.
Having Male Viera face against Zenos would be pretty lorebreaking for Viera.

I feel stupid saying this stuff, because it's all very obvious and everyone knows this.
Having one extra skin for your character to RP with on Balmung isn't worth breaking the Viera lore.
Part of the reason they're so requested in the first place is that their lore makes them interesting.
I understand it's pointless to argue with people having a hissy fit (no offense), but in the offchance that any of this reaches the dev team I think there are some things that needed to be said

[BillyKaplan]

Having one extra skin for your character to RP with on Balmung isn't worth breaking the Viera lore.

Female Viera were confirmed to leave the forest, but they're not supposed to do that either. Why can't males? Are we really supposed to believe that 100%, no exceptions ever, of male Viera don't leave the forest? It has nothing to do with lore and is just plain illogical and statistics breaking. Some male Viera, sometimes, have to have left the forest. Let one of them be your character.
And while we're on that matter, a single male Viera leaving the forest (because as we both agree, other PCs are being ignored), especially to answer the call of Hydaelyn herself to be her Warrior of Light, will not break the lore.

[Hikelos]

Female Viera were confirmed to leave the forest, but they're not supposed to do that either. Why can't males? Are we really supposed to believe that 100%, no exceptions ever, of male Viera don't leave the forest? It has nothing to do with lore and is just plain illogical and statistics breaking. Some male Viera, sometimes, have to have left the forest. Let one of them be your character.
And while we're on that matter, a single male Viera leaving the forest (because as we both agree, other PCs are being ignored), especially to answer the call of Hydaelyn herself to be her Warrior of Light, will not break the lore.

Yes.
That's the lore.
They just do not go outside the forest and see it as sacrilege to even be seen, hence why they were never shown in ANY of the Ivalice games. Any mention of them is basically legend or hearsay.
This is much different than "There are very few Male Miqo'te".
Again, this is not worth your RP.
Let Viera be Viera.

Lore reasons aside, again, I don't think the XIV team will lock in a design for a creature that doesn't belong to them.
Female Viera are exactly as they are in Ivalice, it follows that any look the hypotetical males get would be THE Male Viera design.
There might be an exception if Akihiko Yoshida himself decides to work with the XIV team.

[Crushnight]

When it comes to lore and story XIV functions as a single player game. I see your character is 70, so unless you're the kind of person that skips all dialogue and cutscenes you know this as well.
There's no 2 WoLs in the story, there's you as the WoL and occasionally your anonymous "elite force", which is usually involved in side content not pertinent to the MSQ.
Having Male Viera face against Zenos would be pretty lorebreaking for Viera.

I feel stupid saying this stuff, because it's all very obvious and everyone knows this.
Having one extra skin for your character to RP with on Balmung isn't worth breaking the Viera lore.
Part of the reason they're so requested in the first place is that their lore makes them interesting.
I understand it's pointless to argue with people having a hissy fit (no offense), but in the offchance that any of this reaches the dev team I think there are some things that needed to be said

Come back to me when you don't think Gridania and Ul'Dah won't arrest/attack/interrogate a Hrothgar for walking into their city state they won't add dialogue for this yet it is as breaking as a single male Viera beating up Zenos

[Roda]

Come back to me when you don't think Gridania and Ul'Dah won't arrest/attack/interrogate a Hrothgar for walking into their city state they won't add dialogue for this yet it is as breaking as a single male Viera beating up Zenos

Well clearly the Hrothgar would just wear a helmet or a cowl and mask to hide his beastly appearance!
Oh.. Wait...
Shoot.

[Wolfyboy]

Come back to me when you don't think Gridania and Ul'Dah won't arrest/attack/interrogate a Hrothgar for walking into their city state they won't add dialogue for this yet it is as breaking as a single male Viera beating up Zenos

I don't understand this, tbh.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNj_7670QqY Lupin in Gridania 1:54
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RdOy6ZV10sU Beastmen in Ul'dah 5:00

[deadman1204]

When it comes to lore and story XIV functions as a single player game. I see your character is 70, so unless you're the kind of person that skips all dialogue and cutscenes you know this as well.
There's no 2 WoLs in the story, there's you as the WoL and occasionally your anonymous "elite force", which is usually involved in side content not pertinent to the MSQ.
Having Male Viera face against Zenos would be pretty lorebreaking for Viera.

I feel stupid saying this stuff, because it's all very obvious and everyone knows this.
Having one extra skin for your character to RP with on Balmung isn't worth breaking the Viera lore.
Part of the reason they're so requested in the first place is that their lore makes them interesting.
I understand it's pointless to argue with people having a hissy fit (no offense), but in the offchance that any of this reaches the dev team I think there are some things that needed to be said

You do realize they are not shy about changing Lore from other games to fit the ffxiv game all the time?
Lore is literally whatever they want. If it conflicts with the story - then the lore changes.
"Because Lore" is literally an excuse to cover the true feelings the devs and others had. They are uncomfortable with males that are not giant blocky somethings (see hrothgar) and females who arent small and cute lingerie models (see the new fan service race). The reasons tend to range from sexism to homophobia.
I'm not accusing anyone specifically, because I understand caring about the lore of the game. But lore should NEVER justify discrimination. In this case, the devs are not defending lore, they are using it as an excuse to discriminate.

If you doubt that, explain why viera is literally a boob bot and hrothgar are after thought blocky male somethings.

[Harmonea]

SE, I support your decision to stay within the bounds of the lore you've created for yourself.

However, if you find the pressure for male Viera is too much and do eventually add them, please make them the powerful, savage, bloodthirsty, and territorially murderous hunters they are in the lore, not the cutesy Alphinaud-size things people have in their heads for some reason.

I'm all for having characters of all body types, but you've established this lore, and I hope you won't change it. Those of us with reasonable mental health do not identify as our character and do not take a missing type as a personal attack.