A Big Failure in FFXIV Battle system - You're doing it wrong man!

[Zhinse]

At the moment if, if battle was any faster then we would have a couple of effects to follow:

1.) Some fights end too quickly to be interesting

2.) Party Vs. Mob Party will be way too chaotic to handle. This party vs party aspect of the game was something i didn't think was executed well in the beginning and now feels like a dream.

I am not against speeding up the pace of battle in terms of pure speed, but hopefully its to something that is balanced to make things interesting and not too trivial and that it is balanced well with our cooldown timers. This will have to come in with the new server structure as a base.

If the OP is truly only level 19, then he has some right to complain as at that level you do not gain access to a lot of the fun abilities and cross class combinations. That said, you have the ability to learn the new classes from the ground up and not just think that the combat system is now just combo or bust.

Solo Grinding is still boring as hell, so dont do it.

As for the other people who have raised the fact that we have no more AOE's, slow tp build and long cooldowns, I agreed with you initially but after spending more time with the patch i think that the balance is very well designed and makes the party play i've been in extremely interesting. However, i can understand that going solo up the levels may be bleh status. I haven't tested that out myself. If so, test things out for yourself and then raise a topic here on the board: "Party play great, Solo play snore, please address this"

[Nel_Celestine]

I dislike the combos because you can't use them for anything useful when they require positioning. You can't run around Ifrit to attack his side without risking the mages and the moogles turn and move too quickly to line up combos as well.

[Platinumstorm]

I don't think 1.2 hit the battle sweet spot either, but putting the terrible and mindless FF13 system, which would be next to impossible in the first place, wouldn't work either.

[Tyro]

Pace is OK. I like it. Gives time to use actual strategy

[Jin_]

I dislike the combos because you can't use them for anything useful when they require positioning. You can't run around Ifrit to attack his side without risking the mages and the moogles turn and move too quickly to line up combos as well.

Duh, hop on the ARC bandwagon, worst you do is run in close> keen flurry > quick nock>return to 8yalm+ away for moogles

or for ifrit you go thm and manaburn

notice the similarities to the bandwagon choices? NO POSITIONING!!!! >.>

[BlaiseLallaise]

Pace is OK. I like it. Gives time to use actual strategy

Choosing between 4 unique combo sequences hardly counts as strategy.

Duh, hop on the ARC bandwagon, worst you do is run in close> keen flurry > quick nock>return to 8yalm+ away for moogles

or for ifrit you go thm and manaburn

notice the similarities to the bandwagon choices? NO POSITIONING!!!! >.>

Can't tell if you're serious or not, so...
The lack of positioning requirements should not be distinct to a few select classes, classes that not everyone likes I might add. That is blatant (or negligent) class favoritism that needs to be abolished.

[Wevlum]

I don't think 1.2 hit the battle sweet spot either, but putting the terrible and mindless FF13 system, which would be next to impossible in the first place, wouldn't work either.

Man... thank you, for a minute there I thought everyone enjoyed the FF13 battle system. I don't dislike the game as a whole but honestly, people like the battle system in that game? You mash X and only use the shoulder buttons...they might as well have made the game mash the X button automatically for you.

People want that for an MMO? Combat geared entirely around 3 modes which you switch between while your character does everything automatically? How can people complain about auto-attack and want that?

[Betelgeuzah]

, people like the battle system in that game? You mash X and only use the shoulder buttons...they might as well have made the game mash the X button automatically for you.

You just described the whole franchise.

Aside from the shoulder buttons which make 13 the best to date.

You lack perspective. Best of worst isn't that great but it's still an improvement over pressing X once, watching a 2 minute cutscene and then pressing X again.

[Wevlum]

You just described the whole franchise.

Aside from the shoulder buttons which make 13 the best to date.

You lack perspective. Best of worst isn't that great but it's still an improvement over pressing X once, watching a 2 minute cutscene and then pressing X again.

I lack perspective? I think all you described was continuously summoning KotR in FF7... Also you kind of imply I think any of the non-MMO FF battle systems would fit well in an MMO - I honestly don't.

[ViperGrendal]

Yeah, the battle system now is WAYYY to slow for me. I feel like I'm standing around most of the time waiting for TP so I can actually play the game a little. On MRD in 1.19 I could run up to a group of mobs, hit warmonger, gather them up and broadswing 3000tp, now it takes 30 seconds to get that. Combined with one AOE move for 3000tp with an 80 sec recast timer? Good thing it takes almost that long to get the tp back up 0-o.

Yes, I've figured out the combos, know how to do em all, played every class but archer and lancer, etc..... BTW, I'm auto following my party right now in between cures, since I have time to do that now.....one mob at a time....