Male Viera... Unsubbing for now.

[Wynn_Storm]

Thats what the Bllizzard Devs also always told themself for Years. And yeah, some came back for 60 of around 730 Days of an Addon, so less than 10% of the life span of a Addon.
And now the Game dropped so low, that it only can go downwards and nowhere else.

Why do you keep calling it an add-on? Its an expansion.

And i don't know if you even play WoW, but people didn't quit over a "race". People quit for many good reasons.

Its Blizzard's own fault for their playerbase leaving, they made terrible big decisions on changing the core gameplay.

People quitting over a genderlock race is just such a minuscule thing to quit over, to the point that its completely childish.

Especially quitting now when the races aren't even out, and you haven't gained or lost anything.

Call me ignorant, but you cannot change my mind on this matter and how i view it.

[Skolopendrokot]

Why do you keep calling it an add-on? Its an expansion.

And i don't know if you even play WoW, but people didn't quit over a "race". People quit for many good reasons.

Its Blizzard's own fault for their playerbase leaving, they made terrible big decisions on changing the core gameplay.

People quitting over a genderlock race is just such a minuscule thing to quit over, to the point that its completely childish.

Especially quitting now when the races aren't even out, and you haven't gained or lost anything.

Call me ignorant, but you cannot change my mind on this matter and how i view it.

People can cancel their subscription for any reason if the game doesn't meet their expectations anymore. I myself am not going to unsubscribe, but I understand people who do so and respect their decision. Of course, it's not good for the game's development (if SE gets less money, they will have less money for hiring somebody to create the male Viera model), but we can't force anyone to enjoy something they clearly do not enjoy.

[Johaandr]

People can cancel their subscription for any reason if the game doesn't meet their expectations anymore. I myself am not going to unsubscribe, but I understand people who do so and respect their decision. Of course, it's not good for the game's development (if SE gets less money, they will have less money for hiring somebody to create the male Viera model), but we can't force anyone to enjoy something they clearly do not enjoy.

We were fine without viera. But when they announced it people couldnt wait to become sexy snd pretty cuse viera r going to have better face sculp pixels compare to existing races. Canceling bcuse of NO male vieta is the most stupidest thing ive ever heard. Wr did fine without them

[Wynn_Storm]

People can cancel their subscription for any reason if the game doesn't meet their expectations anymore. I myself am not going to unsubscribe, but I understand people who do so and respect their decision. Of course, it's not good for the game's development (if SE gets less money, they will have less money for hiring somebody to create the male Viera model), but we can't force anyone to enjoy something they clearly do not enjoy.

I'm not saying anybody can't unsub or shouldn't unsub. Its your money do what you want with it. I've unsubbed plenty of times when i felt burnt out or didn't feel like playing.

If you don't find the game enjoyable, sure unsub. But if people are unsubbing solely for the fact that there is no male viera, then that is completely petty.

The thought of someone completely fine and enjoying the game, then hearing this announcement and is like "WTF NO MALE VIERA? UNSUBBING!"

[Skolopendrokot]

I'm not saying anybody can't unsub or shouldn't unsub. Its your money do what you want with it. I've unsubbed plenty of times when i felt burnt out or didn't feel like playing.

If you don't find the game enjoyable, sure unsub. But if people are unsubbing solely for the fact that there is no male viera, then that is completely petty.

The thought of someone completely fine and enjoying the game, then hearing this announcement and is like "WTF NO MALE VIERA? UNSUBBING!"

So you're not saying anybody can't unsub or shouldn't unsub, but if people do it because of the reason you don't approve, then it's stupid. A bit manipulative.

'No male Viera' problem is a bit more complex. It's the race people were asking for years and when they finally got it, it turned out to be gender-locked. If they were dreaming of playing a male Viera for so long time, they have the right to feel disappointed (even I was shocked that the new races are gender-locked, I've never thought that SE would do something like this in FFXIV). So it's not about enjoying the game in general - it's more about losing trust to Yoshi and the rest of the dev team. Sure, they never told us that there will be a male Viera, but they knew that many of their players wanted to play them, so they really can't be surprised that people are upset. I believe that their intentions were good and they tried to compromise things, but still - in my opinion, it would be better to not get a new race at all than getting only one gender.

[Wynn_Storm]

in my opinion, it would be better to not get a new race at all than getting only one gender.

I hate when people say this.

Just because you aren't happy with only 1 gender for the race, doesn't mean we should scrap them.

You have no idea what they went through to add this race to the game. And just because you didn't get what you wanted, doesn't mean "let's just get rid of them until they add 2 genders."

Let's not forget that they said Au Ra were the last race, and surprise we got Viera and Ronso. Sure one gender for each race, but TWO new races.

You can whine and mope, but getting two new races is massive.

If you want to unsub because you didn't get what you want, then bye. That's what this thread is about right?

[Skolopendrokot]

I hate when people say this.

Just because you aren't happy with only 1 gender for the race, doesn't mean we should scrap them.

You have no idea what they went through to add this race to the game. And just because you didn't get what you wanted, doesn't mean "let's just get rid of them until they add 2 genders."

Let's not forget that they said Au Ra were the last race, and surprise we got Viera and Ronso. Sure one gender for each race, but TWO new races.

You can whine and mope, but getting two new races is massive.

If you want to unsub because you didn't get what you want, then bye. That's what this thread is about right?

You didn't understand me. Maybe I am wrong, but I think that because you personally don't care about the gender-lock, you treat people with different expectations in a very pejorative way. You think that people would prefer to not get a Viera race at all instead of getting only one gender because they are selfish and want to punish these ones who don't mind (like 'I didn't get what I wanted, so everyone is obligated to suffer with me!'), but I've read a lot of posts and comments and for the most male Viera fans it just looks like an unfinished product (I would happily wait to get both genders in the next expansion than getting only one gender now. Please remember that they said AuRa is their last playable race, but they still decided to add more of them). This is the thing that is related to the trust I mentioned in my last post. We had a big problem with gender-locked races in the past and if the dev team starts to repeat their own mistakes because of the resources... it's not a good sign. Especially if they knew that they will disappoint the people who were asking for both Viera genders for many years. You really can't expect that players won't be worried. It's okay if you don't, but please don't treat us like selfish crybabies who just want to get what they want and don't care about anything.